Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]

[LastPoet]

To be honest, I find myself more liking Spartacus. It had more nudity than GOT, and albeit romanticized, its based on a true story without dragons.

[Amarok]

Okay, Bran as king.

I already opined about how Jon has at least as good, if not a better, story than Bran's as to why he should be king - the better case being he actually did stuff to defend Westeros from the Night King rather than uselessly worging ravens and flying around aimlessly.

Jon was never going to be king and it would have sucked had hew been king . He got a way batter ending .

So if this whole time he's been the 3-eyed raven and he could see the future, he knew the whole time that the living would defeat the Night King? Why didn't he just tell them that? He knew the whole time that Dany wouldn't be long for the throne? Why not tell her that? He knew he would be named king? Well, I totally understand why he didn't tell people that.

Maybe he isn't suppose to tell them 

But still, think about how epic it would have been for Dany to receive a prophecy from Bran in a similar way that Cersei received one from that swamp witch lady

It wouldn't be it would be prentious 

  Then it would have thrown even more conflict into the story

There was more then enough of that 

Would Dany turn on Jon assuming that he would kill her?

She was probably going to do that anyway 

Would she be killed or captured in some other way?

She died just fine without having a whole unneeded scene 

Would she and Jon end up ruling together and die in childbirth (wrapping up that little nugget that was uselessly thrown out there last season)?

What nugget ?

Would Bran telling people about their future mean that their futures would be inevitable or only inevitable insofar as they continue on their current paths?

The answer to that is already no 

Imagine Dany being told that the people of King's Landing weren't her enemies,

Why would she believe it nor was it needed

that Cersei is defeated, that she will come to the throne but will die on that throne only a short time later.

That seems totally pointless 

If Dany knew before hand that the people of King's Landing weren't in league with Cersei it would make her torching the city even more awful and reactionary and an act committed out of revenge.

Her reasons were good enough in the real ending 

It would mean that she knows that she will die if she takes the throne but proves what Sam was saying to Jon: She wouldn't make the same choice Jon did and give up her power to save the people of Westeros, she makes the decision to grab the throne because it's hers by rights. She's a victim of her own ambitions and believing her own propaganda.

No it would set up pointless storyline and her reason were good enough in the real ending 

And the whole Small Council thing.  : sigh:

It was funny witty and nostaligic 

I don't have a problem with Sam as Grand Maester, I have a problem with not showing how it happened.

I think figuring out how too defeat the ultimate evil gives you a strong claim and Sam has more balls and more brains then lot of them , And who cares to see it 

Brienne as head of the King's Guard? Superficially I'm totally fine with it.  Think about it for 5 seconds and you wonder WTF? Why isn't she Sansa's Queen's guard?

Probably because she feels her oath is fulfilled and Sansa let her or do we need to see that too ?Do we also need to see every freaking event no matter how minor ?

She took a vow to protect Catlyn Stark's daughters, she should have stayed with Sansa.

She doesn't need it and probably let her take Jamie's place 

  Unless, off screen, Sansa asked her to stay in King's Landing to protect Bran, in which case why didn't we get that scene?

We don't need to see it 

Having Brienne leave Sansa's side needed a scene to explain that proposition and decision.

There was no need 

Also, Brienne's last major scene was closing out Jaime's story, not getting her own ending. Boo. 

She was closing her own she's part of the most elite group of knights in the land 
 

I love Brienne, and I don't wish that she had died in the Battle for Winterfell,

Nope 

but the end of her story was when she was knighted by Jaime and stood her ground against the Army of the Dead. 

Nope being an elite knight is better 

 It would have been such a fitting end if she had seen Lyanna Mormont almost get taken out by the giant and went to defend her, then get killed herself, and then we get Lyanna's death.

Wasn't needed nor would it have been cool 

Brienne would have died doing her duty as a knight; Lyanna would have died being a badass.

Nope here real ending living as a knight is better 

And what in the world makes Bronn qualified to be Master of Coin?

What made Tyrion ?

I thought Bran was supposed to be wise.  That was total, stupid fan-service.

How do you know he won't be good at the job ?

 Davos makes perfect sense as Master of Ships, he's been a smuggler his whole life and has intimate knowledge of ships, shipping, seafarring, trade, harbors and that type of infrastructure - totally buy it

No issue here 

 But Bronn? No. I might buy him as Master of War since what he's known for is being a good swordsman and fighter.

Because he done fighting and wants to enjoy his castle and his money  

There were so many character moments that should have been addressed on screen that just weren't!

There was nothing plot critical that didn't happen nor anything important that wasn't addressed 

We spent 8 fucking seasons with these characters and what do we get? Them waltzing into the small council chambers in their new roles without a comment to how it happened? WTF.

Again we don't need to see it Again you complain about nothing 

 

[Shell B]

That last episode could have been animated for children and you would make excuses for it. The show isn't fucking perfect. This season was rushed, and everyone but the diehards know it.

[Amarok]

That last episode could have been animated for children and you would make excuses for it. The show isn't fucking perfect. This season was rushed, and everyone but the diehards know it.

I know it isn't perfect but I'm not going to bash it for trivial or unimportant stuff . This season was quicker then the previous ones that's are far as i'll go on that accusation , And I'm not a die hard I just like the show and think people are massively overreacting to nothing .

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The Targaryen banner and the Dothraki/Unsullied in the plaza : hello Nazi reference.

Or just evil in general 

Jon stabbing Dany, underwhelming. Is that why he was resurrected? Because he wasn't resurrected to kill the Night King: he didn't. Stabbing Dany wasn't a job that only Jon could have done; there was certainly only a small pool of people would could have had access to her, but it wasn't required to be Jon so the whole resurrection thing, as far as I'm concerned, was a loose-end-let-down.

No it wasn't Jon was dany's lover thus the scene had impact and Jon was resurrected so he could live no to fulfill some predestined nonsense .

(If it had to do with the Azor Ahai prophecy I'm not buying it because it almost didn't play a role in the show at all for all the attention it got.)

Because shock even in fantasy a prophecy can be false 

Thought for sure that Drogon would blast Jon with dragon fire and Jon would survive. Instead, he melts the throne. Big whoop.

Yeah melting the most iconic symbol in the show an object that is cause of all the misery our characters have endured and the thing that killed his mother far more then Jon and at the same time truly signaling the end of the Targaryens as kings . Yup totally big whoop   

Unimpressed that Drogon scoops Dany up and flies away.

Yeah because carrying his mother  back to Valeria her ancestral home land is unimpressive 

Tyrion was obviously going to be Hand, or in some way assist in ruling.

That's bad because ?

Bran as king? Not buying it. If Tyrion's case is that stories stick with people and Bran has a good story, then Jon has THE BEST story! Born the legitimate son of the ruling family to the eldest son putting him the line of succession, raised as a bastard not knowing his true identity, volunteers for the Night's Watch where he becomes Lord Commander at a young age because of his selflessness and courage, defends Westeros from the Wildlings and then bridges the divide with the wildlings to save their lives, literally dies at the hands of his own men, devotes all of his efforts to saving the living from the dead, puts his life on the line numerous times, never seeks recognition or power, is elected King of the North, gathers the armies of Westeros to defend against the Night King.... Jon should be king. Fuck the Unsullied, they fucked off to Naarth, they don't get a say.

 And Jon would have been totally miserable instead of the awesome ending he got  and that was never going to happen and yes they do get a say they were allowed a say.

Also, the Grey Worm Naarth ending is the cheesiest thing.

Yeah because going to the place the most important person in his life lives to fulfill a promise he made is so cheesy 

And how in the hell did Sam become Grand Maester? I get that he was named GM and it was Bran's perogative, but becoming a Maester was Sam's ambition and we literally saw none of it. What about the vow that Maesters will be celibate? Um... Gilly is preggers and there was no hint that Sam was going to leave her by the way side. So much more of that needed wrapping up.

Yeah because figuring out how to kill the night king and being super smart totally wouldn't make him qualified for Grand Maester and Sam wouldn't go for the job if offered . As for celibacy Pycelle was screwing whores and nobody seemed to care .

[pocaracas]

The kingslayer!

[The Grand Nudger]

It did seem rushed.  Honestly, the story is so vast, maybe no one knows how to end it.  I don't think that Martin did.  I still enjoyed it.  They did a better job of keeping my attentoion than the books did, aside from the whole bran bullshit.  I leafed through those pages in the book and skipped those episodes on the series,lol.  That might be why I didn't care for that part of the ending.  Don't much care for Bran.

[Clueless Morgan]

You have a vivid imagination... I name you designer of fan fiction! Go forth and produce some nice comic book sketches of that alternate ending for Brienne.

Um... no. My fanfic brain is reserved for a Marauder-era series.

It's ok for those moments to be left to the viewer to fill in.
Allegedly, they also rebuilt the red keep, so I'm assuming it took quite some time until that reunion... but it makes no sense for the kingdom to be without the small council for all that time.

Yeah, I was wondering about that, too.  Structures like the Red Keep literally take generations to build, and the state of the Red Keep after Dany's assault is very questionable, and yet shortly after it's nearly destroyed people are climbing all over it like it's perfectly stable... 100% questionable.

Also, the Red Keep does not seem an ideal castle for a crippled king to rule from; it is definitely not an ADA accessible structure  

It did seem rushed.  Honestly, the story is so vast, maybe no one knows how to end it.  I don't think that Martin did.  I still enjoyed it.  They did a better job of keeping my attentoion than the books did, aside from the whole bran bullshit.  I leafed through those pages in the book and skipped those episodes on the series,lol.  That might be why I didn't care for that part of the ending.  Don't much care for Bran.

Same.  I have been trying to get through the books since I was in high school, got to the first handful of chapters in book 4 a few years ago and still haven't gone back.

For all the complaining I'm doing about S8, I really do love the show and still feel like things only really started to fall apart for me at S8E3.

I go in and out of favoriting storylines (i.e. love Dany S1, thought she was boring S2...) but Bran was rarely on my favorite storyline list.

[Tiberius]

[Amarok]

God this video is cringe

[arewethereyet]

It did seem rushed.  Honestly, the story is so vast, maybe no one knows how to end it.  I don't think that Martin did.  I still enjoyed it.  They did a better job of keeping my attentoion than the books did, aside from the whole bran bullshit.  I leafed through those pages in the book and skipped those episodes on the series,lol.  That might be why I didn't care for that part of the ending.  Don't much care for Bran.

The books are brutal....I still have only managed to make it all the way through the first three and have waded into book four but haven't picked it up in quite a while.

I really enjoyed the TV series overall.  

Bran and his story only seemed to matter when a nugget of information needed to be passed on and there was really no other way to do it but through some sort of sorcery.  I was bored with him a long time ago because he was such a jackass to a lot of people who either gave up, or nearly gave up, their lives for him.  

I thought the casting was some of the best I have seen and the music, costuming, and scenery were also very good. 

Of the series I have watched, and rewatched, GoT is the only one that I didn't fast forward through the opening sequence...I liked the music and watching all the pieces click into place.