So what happened?

[LastPoet]

Lord we forgive you for making such a mistake as Drich.   His existence hurts us not a bit.   No harm, no foul.

If anything, Drich made my day in laughs.

[arewethereyet]

So, the second law of thermodynamics, while useful to make silly arguments for god, suddenly is violated by Drich. Am I reading it wrong?

why don't you share what that law says and how it applies to what I have said here... Then I can tell you where/how you are reading it wrong.

First define entropy, and give me an example.. because if you are going to use this term you and I need to be on the same page.

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Wow! This guy gives a whole new meaning to the term " batshit crazy". This is an entirely new level of insanity.

examples?

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let me guess everything.. do you have specific examples where i go off the road and can you provided proof your road is the standard in which sanity is measured? One more thing can you do this topically? meaning with anything I have said here today?

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or is this a weak minded way of dismissing someone without having proof of anything beside your word and the doubt you want to create in my character.

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Violated in ways that cause physicists to demand trigger warnings ...

Good then you understand the point he is trying to make... so I doubt he will be able to answer coherently using science and fact, so I offer the challenge to you as well. first like him define entropy and then explain the 2nd law and how my machine violates it.

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Keep telling yourself you are the smartest one in the room.  Your wife probably has the pictures to prove it.

I am sure that in your pathetic little world your Wikipedia Degree is impressive.

No no... remember I'm the dumbest one here because again I hold none of your degrees I never been to a accredited school (besides to work on a cooler or ac or something) and I can't spell or understand how to communicate or have basic reading comprehension skills.

I'm the dumbest person here who had to completely depend on wiki and other sources to discuss what you people "know" (for a lack of a more accurate term)

All that I am are the mistakes you 'good' people constantly point out.

What is left (the part that is always right and comes up with a perpetual motion machine in side of two mins when all of the world still trying to come up with a plausible model) That part is what God allows me to borrow from Him. that is my gift.

So what happens when you give a below average person access to library of God's knowledge and a simple internet connection?

You get atheist trying every trick in the book to silence a voice with any means possible. you get personal attacks and accusation from no where, you get anger hate and negative joo joo being wished on the person who does not work or think like the group is told to.

again look at how few of you are even trying to hang with me topically.. look at how many are just blindly stabbing in the dark hopping to hit a nerve of some kind. and remember I am the dumbest person here by every measure you got... But if I am handing a whole room full of you your asses, what does that make you?

We didn't come looking for you.  You came here, supposedly to enlighten us with your vast knowledge of God.  How's that been working out for you?

The only ass you may have been handed or handled is your own.

You do know that anyone can change the information on Wikipedia, right? It's about as reliable as your good book.

[Bucky Ball]

moving the goal posts... 

Can't win an argument?
let say you opponent simply said the brain transmits and receives signals, and then points to billionaire who spends 100 million of his own money on this very idea...

Shouldn't you be busy running your "successful business" LOL.
Thanks for pointing out YOUR movement of goal posts. First it was the billionaire who spent 20 billion, and now you're down to 100 million.
Good to know you're learning from me.

[Nay_Sayer]

Why in the hell did I read that as Daddy Vladdy?

Thanks. I'm now going to permanently think of that name when I see his image.

Just hope I don't refer to him as that in public.

Ah yes .... the Christian speaking. So Christ-like. LOL. You really need some chill pills.
But it's fun to push your buttons. You react like a little lap dog.

says the welp with his tail between his legs now.
You come at me and I will each and every time swing for the fences..

Besides his successes, he has a quite the record of spectacular failures. We do get where we fail. Listening to ANYTHING you say.
How about you get back to us when he actually uploads even a tiny part of one consciousness. It's STILL not what you say. And it's NOT "transmission and reception".
Sorry you were caught lying here red-handed. You said it proves something. It's not even happened yet, so obviously dumbshit, it's not proof of anything here.

citation please..
If I had Sooo many failure it would be easy for you to cite a few.. 

Time to go play your little Paradox Game with the Fundie kids. Run along now and play.
Have a nice time proving how bad your Dunning-Kruger is.

You sound like a whooped dog barking his way back to his safe space.. You need to learn to justdrop the subject like your peers do when show them they are wrong.

citation please..
If I had Sooo many failure it would be easy for you to cite a few.. 

Easier to cite all of them ...

https://atheistforums.org/search.php?act...739b7f267d

LOLOLOLOL
That's not nuclear power. You don't (even) get what nuclear power is.Other places are doing it, at less than half the distance. Engineering is not one of your many fortes.
It's known as geothermal power.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/201...-hot-rocks
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environme...geothermal
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/eng...geothermal

omg...

Google Why is it hotter the deeper you dig into the earth... Google anything before you speak out of sheer ignorance!

Oh, wait according to you I cant communicate well enough for the dumbest among you to understand a simple principle... so I will post a cartoon that way you will see where the free nuclear power comes from.


Also note, in the last 3 posts maybe 4 claims you made about me.. They only showed you where wrong, you were lying or your reading comprehension is at fault.. again 4 out of 4 times you tried to usurp what I said, and you failed.. yet here again, you are so ignorant about the world around you assume I am at error rather than google and find out for sure. This is how the dunning kruger is playing out in your life, you assume you are an authority on everything and everything that does not agree is wrong.

Learn to look shiite up dummy!

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What kind of nuclear power is it Drich? Fission or Fusion?

see the cartoon above t-what

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Go easy on the guy. His last two functional brain cells fight on a  daily basis for oxygen. 

I can assure you drich doesn't even know if you should store gasoline near an open flame let alone anything about nuclear power.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/obs...rths-heat/

You guys are stupid and don't even know it because you are in the majority.. Educate yourself fool

omg...

Google Why is it hotter the deeper you dig into the earth... Google anything before you speak out of sheer ignorance!

Oh, wait according to you I cant communicate well enough for the dumbest among you to understand a simple principle... so I will post a cartoon that way you will see where the free nuclear power comes from.

Learn to look shiite up dummy!


see the cartoon above t-what

My what a lovely Christian gentleman he is. I gotta get me some of that religion.
The nuclear power is not available to anyone, and guess what, L'll Drishy ?
There are NO LITTLE MAKE BELIEVE men running around underground.
Your understanding of the process is WRONG. There is no DIRECT nuclear energy available.
Guess what. Even though you don't get it, the sun's energy IS directly available. The energy from the sun IS from nuclear reactions.
You came up with nothing. The free unlimited solar energy has been known for a little while now. LOL.  
You really should Goggle how a nuclear energy plant works, and how it makes energy.
It's not with little men running around. 
Nuclear energy is CONVERTED to thermal energy and THEN it heats up the rocks. NO ONE is disputing that, fool.

Oh well. Better not send out your Nobel Prize invitations quite yet.
I was right about everything I said ... 100 %. Lying for Jebus is still lying. You really should see a therapist about your anger problem.

You know what's really funny.
That someone who CLAIMS to be such a "success" has all this time to spend spouting his hate on an atheist site, and not managing is great successful business.  LOL

Right, it has nothing to do with the limited heat capacity of the rocks the water might come into contact with, so the rocks cool and lose ability to generate more steam after water has been circulating through them;  nor the limited thermal conductivity of the rocks, so once the rock is cooled, it takes awfully long time for new thermal energy to conduct in and heat the rocks back up again; nor the fact that porosity and water permeability of rocks decrease with depth, so at certain depth water can no longer be forced through rocks regardless of pressure.


It's because they didn't drill deep enough.


Do you bottle your farts and smell them throughout the day for inspiration?

why your analisis fails:
you assume the hole size is limited to the size hole drilled in russia and you assume like with russia the water being used is pre chilled. (which again flashed at 7.5 miles/IE they could not make the hole cooler with chilled water even after months of pumping, because by the time it got to the drill it was vapor.)

Even so if we used a water mix or a coolant like sodium glycol the coolant mixture under pressure, would flash at a much higher temp. this would reduce the energy taken from the geothermal mass. all of these things together mitigate heat loss. All one need do is calculate the thermal conductivity of the rock at 7.5 miles down below them in their part of the world and do a simple k-factor equation to determine heat loss in this process using a coolant designed to retain heat verse just water and calculate out how big the hole or a reservoir need be at the bottom of the hole to have continuous power supply. Then simply never exceed the extraction of heat beyond what the earth can replenish.. If more power is needed then don't turn the generator up, drill another hole!

Thermal conductivity (k-factor) is the measure of a material's ability to transfer heat. Materials that transfer heat readily have high k-factors, like steel (228 Btu-in/hr-ft2-°F @ 75°F mean temperature), and are classified as conductors.

[/url]calculation of k-factor and r-value - K-Flex USA


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Am i wrong or did this idiot just really claim he has found a perpetual motion machine, and it is geothermal activity fueled by decay of radioactive material below the surface of this planet?

I found a energy source to run a machine indefinitely/1000 years past the point any sentient being presence on the planet to point out it did not indeed run forever.

Or to rephrase:

Who will be around to prove that I am wrong?

By the time you can not drill a hole deep enough for this to work, everything n the surface will be long dead.

(Earth magnetic field is also fuel by the core and with out it all life stops... the magnetic field will drop almost instantaneously if the reactor at the core stops, while it would take what 20 million years according to kelvin for the earth to cool down (remembering his calculation did not include or compensate for the core being radio active, and once that stops nothing mathematically can say he was wrong.) all life would have been obliterated by the solar bombardment.

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I don't think he actually knew about the decay of the radioactive material bit.

If he thinks he knew why inside of the earth is hot, tell him radioactive decay supplies only part of the heat that is being generated inside the earth, and ask him where the rest is coming from.


In any case, neither major sources of heat generation inside the earth is perpetual.  Both will gradually wind down over geological time.

and i do not think you understand the definition of perpetual motion machine.. even after I posted it.

wear and tear would consume the machine before the radiation of the core would stop producing enough heat to cause a fuel failure.

Meaning core fails with in 10 years all life ends, yet the machine will continue on till the bearing fails, or a pipe develops a leak or a rubber oring cracks and fails or 1000 other wear and tear things happens... which again is included in the defination.

Meaning the definition of perpetual motion machine makes allowances for wear and tear. which again will hapen long long before the machine runs out of fuel/heat.

I found a energy source to run a machine indefinitely/1000 years past the point any sentient being presence on the planet to point out it did not indeed run forever.

Or to rephrase:

Who will be around to prove that I am wrong?

By the time you can not drill a hole deep enough for this to work, everything n the surface will be long dead.

(Earth magnetic field is also fuel by the core and with out it all life stops... the magnetic field will drop almost instantaneously if the reactor at the core stops, while it would take what 20 million years according to kelvin for the earth to cool down (remembering his calculation did not include or compensate for the core being radio active, and once that stops nothing mathematically can say he was wrong.) all life would have been obliterated by the solar bombardment.

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and i do not think you understand the definition of perpetual motion machine.. even after I posted it.

wear and tear would consume the machine before the radiation of the core would stop producing enough heat to cause a fuel failure.

Meaning core fails with in 10 years all life ends, yet the machine will continue on till the bearing fails, or a pipe develops a leak or a rubber oring cracks and fails or 1000 other wear and tear things happens... which again is included in the defination.

Meaning the definition of perpetual motion machine makes allowances for wear and tear. which again will hapen long long before the machine runs out of fuel/heat.

Hello!

Ah. I see some one mentioned the geo-thermal power system.

They're using that in.. Iceland (I think?) and New Zealnd.

people are learning alot about how to do the tech well.

Like, one of the problems is keeping the water IN the system. It's actually hard to cross connect the two 'bore' holes. SO when you pump water down one... Not all the 'water' comes back up.

I think the folks in Iceland have a good-er-er way of resolving this issue.... don't have any links atm.

I've heard.. possibly in New Zealand? That one of the other down-sides is kind of making a 'Mud volcano'.

Basically you allow higher temperature material to rise up closer to the surface. It mixes with ground water and spoul and 'BLURT" steaming hot mud errupts out of the round.

So.. it's kind of a viable way to parasitically suck the heat out of the planet.... but there are still tech hurdles to over come.

Plus... you can only really do it in places where the crust is kind'a 'THin' or 'Faulty' to begin with.

The idea would be rather a non-starter in a place like Australia. The continent sits pretty much smack in the middle of its 'Plate'.

Cheers!

Not at work.

the problem they are experiencing is where pockets of heat come closer to the surface. what the people in russia tried to do is drill a hole to the center of the earth (right in the middle of the continental plate) they found at 7.5 miles down they could no longer cool their drill bits because the water turn to vapor intantiousiouly. 

on the simple explanation surface all one need do in drill a idk 12 inch hole 7.5 (let's say 12 inches is the butter zone of heat extrapolation to loss.. and rather than pump raw water down this pipe you plant a heat exchanger at the bottom and this will eliminate all of the problems you listed about boring two holes or pushing up mud. the idea is to keep everything self contained so there is no expenditure of water as a quasi fuel or media to transfer heat. and this will further allow the use of purposely designed coolants that can hold more heat and lubricate internal machine parts seals and pumps.

the problem they are experiencing is where pockets of heat come closer to the surface. what the people in russia tried to do is drill a hole to the center of the earth (right in the middle of the continental plate) they found at 7.5 miles down they could no longer cool their drill bits because the water turn to vapor intantiousiouly. 

on the simple explanation surface all one need do in drill a idk 12 inch hole 7.5 (let's say 12 inches is the butter zone of heat extrapolation to loss.. and rather than pump raw water down this pipe you plant a heat exchanger at the bottom and this will eliminate all of the problems you listed about boring two holes or pushing up mud. the idea is to keep everything self contained so there is no expenditure of water as a quasi fuel or media to transfer heat. and this will further allow the use of purposely designed coolants that can hold more heat and lubricate internal machine parts seals and pumps.

The highlighted sentence alone is enough to make one bow before the awesome erudition.

This is hilarious. If anyone else came up with this kind of stuff everyone would be accusing them of being a POE.

And as people point out why he is wrong he digs himself a deeper hole (see what I did there?). Let's see if we can get that hole a bit deeper shall we ..

per·pet·u·al mo·tion
/pərˈpeCH(əw)əl ˈmōSHən/
noun

1. a state in which movement or action is or appears to be continuous and unceasing.
   "the planet is in perpetual motion"
   
   • the motion of a hypothetical machine which, once activated, would run forever unless subject to an external force or to wear.
     "the age-old quest for the secret of perpetual motion"
     
     

do you see the second definition? 

This is me in a 2 min window providing you and the rest of the world with a machine that would technically run forever.

Some questions for you Drich (because I know you enjoy the Socratic method to really test your ideas ):


1. What provides the heat in your system?
2. Will the Earth's internal heat decrease over time? Or will it be there forever?
3. Do you agree that if the rock surrounding the drill hole is heating the water, then some heat is transferred from the rock to the water?
4. What happens to the heat transferred to the water?
5. If you agree with 3, then how quickly will the rock surrounding the drill hole take to heat up again and where does this heat come from?

So what you are saying here is that to prove something to people you sometimes require tangible and verifiable evidence. Now can you apply this to god and you will discover that nothing you have presented meets any of those definitions.

So the angel who came and told me of my past present and future??? the one that changed my life and started a whole new direction/put me on the path of success I am on now, does not meet the evidence my life has produced and doesn't not point back to God?

That is correct. It points to you being delusional.

How do you figure? or are you just speaking in atheistic generalities that are true in a philosophical discussion but can not hold up to How God interacts with people in real life?

Lets put it like this. No angel has ever been proven to exist, in fact nothing supernatural has passed any tests that would make it to even a possibilty.
That you feel you an angel only means that you feel you met one, nothing more.

God does not interact with people in any verifiable way and is as far as can be discerned, fiction.

Happy to help.

moving the goal posts... 

Can't win an argument?
let say you opponent simply said the brain transmits and receives signals, and then points to billionaire who spends 100 million of his own money on this very idea...

Shouldn't you be busy running your "successful business" LOL.
Thanks for pointing out YOUR movement of goal posts. First it was the billionaire who spent 20 billion, and now you're down to 100 million.
Good to know you're learning from me.

Just proving a point to Drich with this.  Not that I expect him to understand.

[Amarok]

I found a energy source to run a machine indefinitely/1000 years past the point any sentient being presence on the planet to point out it did not indeed run forever.

Lol the fact the earth is not eternal 

By the time you can not drill a hole deep enough for this to work, everything n the surface will be long dead.

No one needs to be there to know the earth will not last forever 


So summed up this rant fails

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because i just came up with it when challenged

Yes you did delude yourself just now . In defiance of every single thing we know .

I also came up with a way to reconcile all of evolutionary theory with a literal 7 day creation without changing a word in either narrative, and have not cashed in here either.

No you didn't

[Anomalocaris]

and i do not think you understand the definition of perpetual motion machine.. even after I posted it.

wear and tear would consume the machine before the radiation of the core would stop producing enough heat to cause a fuel failure.

Meaning core fails with in 10 years all life ends, yet the machine will continue on till the bearing fails, or a pipe develops a leak or a rubber oring cracks and fails or 1000 other wear and tear things happens... which again is included in the defination.

Meaning the definition of perpetual motion machine makes allowances for wear and tear. which again will hapen long long before the machine runs out of fuel/heat.

Ahhhh, I got it!


A perpetual motion machine is a machine so poorly designed, so shabbily constructed, and so sloppily maintained that it is guaranteed to break down before its energy source runs out!


Well, Drich, have I got a lot of perpetual motion machines for you!

[Amarok]

and i do not think you understand the definition of perpetual motion machine.. even after I posted it.

wear and tear would consume the machine before the radiation of the core would stop producing enough heat to cause a fuel failure.

Meaning core fails with in 10 years all life ends, yet the machine will continue on till the bearing fails, or a pipe develops a leak or a rubber oring cracks and fails or 1000 other wear and tear things happens... which again is included in the defination.

Meaning the definition of perpetual motion machine makes allowances for wear and tear. which again will hapen long long before the machine runs out of fuel/heat.

Ahhhh,  I got it!    


A perpetual motion machine is a machine so poorly designed, so shabbily constructed, and so sloppily maintained that it is guaranteed to break down before its energy source runs out!


Well, Drich, have I got a lot of perpetual motion machines for you!

And eventually the earth the sun and the whole solar system will end .Because they are finite. So much for an infinite source

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and i do not think you understand the definition of perpetual motion machine.. even after I posted it.

wear and tear would consume the machine before the radiation of the core would stop producing enough heat to cause a fuel failure.

Meaning core fails with in 10 years all life ends, yet the machine will continue on till the bearing fails, or a pipe develops a leak or a rubber oring cracks and fails or 1000 other wear and tear things happens... which again is included in the defination.

Meaning the definition of perpetual motion machine makes allowances for wear and tear. which again will hapen long long before the machine runs out of fuel/heat.

Ahhhh,  I got it!    


A perpetual motion machine is a machine so poorly designed, so shabbily constructed, and so sloppily maintained that it is guaranteed to break down before its energy source runs out!


Well, Drich, have I got a lot of perpetual motion machines for you!

And isn't it amazing that only Derpch has thought of this lol

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You sound like a whooped dog barking his way back to his safe space.. You need to learn to justdrop the subject like your peers do when show them they are wrong.

Nah that would  be you derpch and you have never shown any such thing . You pathetic fool who we keep around for entertainment

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So the angel who came and told me of my past present and future???

The one you claim did this 

the one that changed my life and started a whole new direction/put me on the path of success I am on now, does not meet the evidence my life has produced and doesn't not point back to God?

A bunch of claims 

How do you figure? or are you just speaking in atheistic generalities that are true in a philosophical discussion but can not hold up to How God interacts with people in real life?

That people like you claim with a shred of evidence he does

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did you see what I did there?

Fail miserably. Yes I did . 

You made mention of an unknown to me so I immediately looked it up.

The failed again 

Understand I do this with EVERYTHING.

Yes you do fail at everything 

If I sound crazy or my claims are wild know I have at least 3 other solid sources backing me up, and then you guy come with your off the cuff cocktail dinner facts and try and challenge me.

No your claims even after citing a source you  deluded yourself have backed you point then you make even crazier claims 

Of course you are doomed to fail each and every time you have no hope in winning unless you do it dishonestly or try and whip up a mob of drich haters and even then how did the last one go?

No instead we always win . Then ask your worthless ass to be tossed out . Which could be done at any time 

60 pages of you people complaining to the site owners to get rid of me because I won't let you win.

No more like 60 pages of pointing out why your useless to this forum and that you never win

[Amarok]

If you guys did not always read everything I say with hate and vitriol behind my words you would quickly see all of the jokes and funny things i season my topics with.

Nah we read hubris and egotism into you words . And we are more then aware of your joke they are called your comments weither you intend them as jokes or not . Unfortunately your routine got stale  and the novelty wore off  some time ago and like any other broken toy it's time to put you away .Oh well .

I am one of the funniest people here that you don't know is funny. Can't read a humor with you butt clinched and teeth gritted hating someone

Oh we know your funny . Not you jokes they are lame but everything else you write is court fool gold .And we can more then laugh at your stupidity while disliking your personality  .

[Bucky Ball]

If you guys did not always read everything I say with hate and vitriol behind my words you would quickly see all of the jokes and funny things i season my topics with.

Nah we read hubris and egotism into you words . And we are more then aware of your joke they are called your comments weither you intend them as jokes or not . Unfortunately your routine got stale  and the novelty wore off  some time ago and like any other broken toy it's time to put you away .Oh well .

I am one of the funniest people here that you don't know is funny. Can't read a humor with you butt clinched and teeth gritted hating someone

Oh we know your funny . Not you jokes they are lame but everything else you write is court fool gold .And we can more then laugh at your stupidity while disliking your personality  .

The Dunning-Krueger is strong in this one. 
Not only has he discovered many things, deserves the Nobel, .... but now we find he is convinced he is funny. 
Goodness. Is there anything he is not capable of ?
Trouble is, he's ALWAYS boasting. We all know what that is a sign of. 
LOL

[Peebothuhlu]

Wow! This guy gives a whole new meaning to the term " batshit crazy". This is an entirely new level of insanity.

Oh no, not really.

I used to post on a science forum where one of the members swore blind they were developing a water powered, anti-gravity capable Land Rover in their back yard garage and that "Any day now they'd be flying off to the Moon!" to prove we forum nay-sayers wrong.

Lots of "spin energy this' and 'Electro-voltanic' that stlye words were used in said person's explanations/justifications/ranting.

Drich is pretty undrestandable pretty much all of the time.

Like, for example, in Drich's reply to me they posted about a 'Heat exchanger' being placed at the bottom of the hole.

Uhm... I'm pretty sure a heat exchanger neeeds a good differential of temeperature (Hot on one side, cold on the other) to work well. Putting it in nothing but heat or cold and it'l not do much of anything.

As a quick summation.

Cheers.

Not at work.