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El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
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RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 4, 2019 at 2:19 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I am playing a necromancer on Diablo 3. You don't see me going to graveyards and rainsing the dead to massacre a lot of people.

More people play FPS style games here in Portugal. Did we ever got a mass shooting? I'm trying to remember.
Once would expect Japan and South Korea to be nations filled with serial killers

Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#72
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 4, 2019 at 2:21 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(August 4, 2019 at 2:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear.  You said, 'FBI statistics say the majority of mass shooters are white single males with a history of violrnce and mental health issues.'  I haven't been able to find that and was hoping you might have a source for it.

Boru
This story has a summary - and a link to th FBI info which is rather lenghthy.... If ya have lots of time to kill...

https://qz.com/1456558/the-fbis-warning-...ooter/amp/

Thanks.  I skimmed several of the links (you're right - there's a LOT of info there) and could not find a single reference to white supremacy.

That being said, the warning signs and triggers listed don't necessarily preclude a shooter being a white supremacist.  These include violent behaviour, depression, a sudden interest in firearms, being sacked from a job, and so on.
 
So, one can be a troubled white single male and conduct a mass shooting with or without being a white supremacist. 

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#73
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 4, 2019 at 2:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 4, 2019 at 2:21 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: This story has a summary - and a link to th FBI info which is rather lenghthy.... If ya have lots of time to kill...

https://qz.com/1456558/the-fbis-warning-...ooter/amp/

Thanks.  I skimmed several of the links (you're right - there's a LOT of info there) and could not find a single reference to white supremacy.

That being said, the warning signs and triggers listed don't necessarily preclude a shooter being a white supremacist.  These include violent behaviour, depression, a sudden interest in firearms, being sacked from a job, and so on.
 
So, one can be a troubled white single male and conduct a mass shooting with or without being a white supremacist. 

Boru
White supremacists used to be seen as groups who got together and held rallies while waving Confederate flags and/or sporting Nazi emblems and/or KKK robes.  Now we are finding solo white supremacists who look like the guy next door or in the next cube at the office.  It's almost scarier that they look 'normal' and aren't advertising their stance and plans (if any) to the general public.  Their manifestos and threats tend to appear on social media and not seen by a large number of people.  It's only after an event like this that their intentions are made known.  They are able to hide in plain site.
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#74
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 4, 2019 at 3:21 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(August 4, 2019 at 2:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Thanks.  I skimmed several of the links (you're right - there's a LOT of info there) and could not find a single reference to white supremacy.

That being said, the warning signs and triggers listed don't necessarily preclude a shooter being a white supremacist.  These include violent behaviour, depression, a sudden interest in firearms, being sacked from a job, and so on.
 
So, one can be a troubled white single male and conduct a mass shooting with or without being a white supremacist. 

Boru
White supremacists used to be seen as groups who got together and held rallies while waving Confederate flags and/or sporting Nazi emblems and/or KKK robes.  Now we are finding solo white supremacists who look like the guy next door or in the next cube at the office.  It's almost scarier that they look 'normal' and aren't advertising their stance and plans (if any) to the general public.  Their manifestos and threats tend to appear on social media and not seen by a large number of people.  It's only after an event like this that their intentions are made known.  They are able to hide in plain site.

No argument.  For every bloke who snaps when he loses his job and shoots five co-workers, there someone who wants to 'kill as many Mexicans as I can'.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#75
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
The FBI has downplayed or ignored white nationalism 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/magaz...right.html

https://www.voanews.com/usa/report-fbi-d...t-violence

https://www.brennancenter.org/press-rele...t-violence
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#76
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
Not anymore. Their most recent reports put white supremacy front and center in domestic terrorism.

“Mass shooter” is, very often, a euphemism for domestic terrorist.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#77
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)

I see that the mass shootings continue in the USA.
meanwhile back in the UK the problem is being dealt with at source!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49222263

A man from Dublin has been charged with illegally importing firearms after 60 weapons were found in a car arriving in Dover from Calais.

The National Crime Agency (NCA) said the guns were found concealed in a Volkswagen Passat by the Border Force and NCA on Friday.
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#78
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
(August 4, 2019 at 4:12 pm)Amarok Wrote: The FBI has downplayed or ignored white nationalism 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/magaz...right.html

https://www.voanews.com/usa/report-fbi-d...t-violence

https://www.brennancenter.org/press-rele...t-violence

Ain't you fucking awesome?

You KNOW what the FBI is thinking at any given moment -- and you' re how many thousand kilometers from Langley?

We're IMPRESSED!

(August 4, 2019 at 5:00 pm)Alan4Discussion Wrote: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)

I see that the mass shootings continue in the USA.
meanwhile back in the UK the problem is being dealt with at source!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49222263

A man from Dublin has been charged with illegally importing firearms after 60 weapons were found in a car arriving in Dover from Calais.

The National Crime Agency (NCA) said the guns were found concealed in a Volkswagen Passat by the Border Force and NCA on Friday.

guarran- fuckin- tee they were just handguns..


Small ones- at that.
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#79
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
Quote:Ain't you fucking awesome?
Yes I am 


Quote:You KNOW what the FBI is thinking at any given moment -- and you' re how many thousand kilometers from Langley?
Yeah I clearly just showed evidence that they have ignored white nationalism . I did not pretend to have psychic powers. That's something you do.


Quote:We're IMPRESSED!
Impressed I showed some links showing that they have done so it's not that impressive .But it is true .

(August 4, 2019 at 4:21 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Not anymore.  Their most recent reports put white supremacy front and center in domestic terrorism.

“Mass shooter” is, very often, a euphemism for domestic terrorist.

Well it took them long enough

Quote:guarran- fuckin- tee they were just handguns..
Yup doesn't matter though 



Quote:Small ones- at that.
Again doesn't matter
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#80
RE: El Paso Shooting (Yes, Again)
It did, and the pressure to avoid openly discussing a threat they’d been tracking was political.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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