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RE: Why you all need others, to believe?
December 25, 2019 at 4:45 pm
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(December 25, 2019 at 7:47 am)LastPoet Wrote: (December 25, 2019 at 6:46 am)Belacqua Wrote: I think that people should believe true things.
You can't command what people think. You can only educate the willing to learn.
When I was young like 10, I stole a jar of Sodium (Na) from shool because I was skeptical that it would explode. So I cutted a tiny bit and put it in a glass of water in my homework desk. Tiny bit, boiled over water, made a bluish flame and extinguished. In order to prove scientists wrong, had to experiment with a bigger piece. That's how you get tinitis...
What I did with the remainder of the jar, only in the presence of my lawyer.
Best thing is to educate people that might learn, about our best interpretations of facts, than others interested in the interpretation of fantasies.
Yes, of course. Commanding people, at least in our society, is likely to make them want to believe the opposite. Likewise telling them they're stupid if they believe differently.
I would never command anyone.
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RE: Why you all need others, to believe?
December 25, 2019 at 8:34 pm
I don't know for sure. Seems to me it's built into the mind virus of faith.
If faith didn't propagate it would die out, so it has to to stay in the population. Isn't memetic evolution just great?
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RE: Why you all need others, to believe?
December 26, 2019 at 2:05 am
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We spread our religions precisely because we want to believe things that are true. We ping almost all of our beliefs off of other people - it's one of the main ways that we attempt to certify their accuracy. The flaw in this method is obvious...but it works out true enough, enough of the time, to be a useful heuristic. Ultimately, so much of religion isn't even concerned with what is, but what we think should be - an incredibly fertile field for this sort of communal reality-making.
In this context, even the mutual observation that things are not as we declare them to be is not and cannot be a counterfactual point of data - merely an undesirable state of affairs to be changed.
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RE: Why you all need others, to believe?
December 26, 2019 at 9:34 am
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Personally as a Muslim, I must warn from a day where humans will be judged for their deeds -to the smallest deed-; and then either go to paradise or to hell.
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RE: Why you all need others, to believe?
December 26, 2019 at 10:09 am
Is that something that you personally struggle with?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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