Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?

[Nay_Sayer]

@Drich What are your thoughts? :3

[R00tKiT]

Craven...liar, lol.

The meaning of the word" Ummi " has been shifted and it has been claimed that our prophet is illiterate. See verses 3:20 and 2:78 for the true meaning of the word" Ummi".

The meaning of the word" Ummi " was falsified and the lie that the Prophet Muhammad was illiterate was fabricated. See 2:78; 7: 157. The word Ummi is used for those who are not the people of the book, and it also means the Capital City (2:92), referring to the capital Mecca, which is defined as Ummul-Kura (mother of cities). In both senses, historically, they coincide with each other, because the Meccans were not generally people of the book.

Where did I lie...? And didn't he say Muhammad wrote the Qur'an on a paper ? Yes or no..?

It's another for you to demand things, receive them, and then plow ahead regardless. 

That's not what usually happens... liar. You never discuss details, you throw accusations then disregard my replies to them.

[Abaddon_ire]

What exactly do you mean by factual imperfection..? Where is it located specifically in the Qur'an..? The gospel accounts were selected out of hundreds other anonymous writings back in the First council of Nicaea.... I don't see how this is even comparable to the Qur'an, which started literally as a pure "audio" book, not written anywhere. It was recorded mouth to ear from hundreds of companions of Muhammad. 

Good grief. The biblical canon was NOT decided at the first Council of Nicea, or any Council of Nicea. How do you not know this?

If you are unable to get even basic information right, your credibility is right out the window.

[The Grand Nudger]

You just can't help but prove me right, can you Kloro?

[Abaddon_ire]

So anyway, resolve these claims

"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Did allah the shit create man from a blood clot, clay, dust, nothing or sperm?

ETA: Not to mention that we know no Adam ever existed anyway.

[The Grand Nudger]

All of the above, obviously, because magic book is so magical that it can never be wrong about anything, ever.

A clot of blood, sounding clay, from the dust, out of nothing, man juice....and a partridge in a pear tree.

[The Architect Of Fate]

What exactly do you mean by factual imperfection..? Where is it located specifically in the Qur'an..? The gospel accounts were selected out of hundreds other anonymous writings back in the First council of Nicaea.... I don't see how this is even comparable to the Qur'an, which started literally as a pure "audio" book, not written anywhere. It was recorded mouth to ear from hundreds of companions of Muhammad. 

Good grief. The biblical canon was NOT decided at the first Council of Nicea, or any Council of Nicea. How do you not know this?

If you are unable to get even basic information right, your credibility is right out the window.

Indeed 

https://www.michaeljkruger.com/ten-basic...h-council/

https://ehrmanblog.org/did-the-council-o...the-bible/

http://www.letusreason.org/Current47.htm

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So anyway, resolve these claims

"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Did allah the shit create man from a blood clot, clay, dust, nothing or sperm?

ETA: Not to mention that we know no Adam ever existed anyway.

It gets funnier 

https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sc...mbryo.html

[R00tKiT]

So anyway, resolve these claims

"Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
"The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35).
"He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).

Did allah the shit create man from a blood clot, clay, dust, nothing or sperm?

ETA: Not to mention that we know no Adam ever existed anyway.

You're not worth my time, frankly speaking, taking god's name in vain in an Islam topic.

Clay/dust components and the human body's have a lot in common. That's what the Qur'an relays to the layman back then, people  who have zero chemistry knowledge.



According to the picture above, what would be the best way to explain our carbon/silicon based origins fourteen centuries ago ... in layman's terms?

The verses you're mentioning are really good reasons to believe.

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL, here he goes with Good Reasons™.

What are those, again? Are they in any way connected to..well..reason? Or is this the other kind of Good Reason™?

It wouldn't have been any more difficult to explain chemistry to those people, who had no knowledge..than it was to you. I'm pretty sure that it didn't even take a god to get you informed...some lowly ape managed it without a gods considerable abilities, and in spite of your own clear shortcomings.

Another demonstration of you asking, receiving, and never having given a shit to begin with.

[R00tKiT]

It wouldn't have been any more difficult to explain chemistry to those people, who had no knowledge..than it was to you.  I'm pretty sure that it didn't even take a god to get you informed...some lowly ape managed it without a gods considerable abilities, and in spite of your own clear shortcomings.

Guidance is supposed to be quite different than teaching science, that is. And if it doesn't take God to figure out chemistry, that's one more reason for God to devote his holy book to something else.

I only need to know my body resembles clay - essentially - to learn humility, who cares about silicon carbon minutiae outside of a lab;

The point of my remarks above, is that the Qur'an was really accurate when talking about human origins. That's exactly what's expected of one to explain our modern understanding of it fourteen centuries ago.