So, what is it that Trump should have done differently?

[TaraJo]

Hey, Prof? Trump has been pretty selective about when states have authority and when he has authority. He's said, on more than one occasion, that he has the authority to make decisions about this virus, about the quarantine and about opening the country back up. Observe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1MdGfv-W9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIBlaMkTMzQ

I'm sure if I did more than just a 2 minute youtube search, I'd find plenty more hits like that. The point is, yes, Trump has said he absolutely has the authority to make decisions that you keep saying the states are supposed to make. But he didn't. He let the states shut down instead of doing things from a federal level because, from the very start, his actions indicate that he's been more worried about the stock market than he has this pandemic. He told people to go to work sick because he didn't want to reduce productivity. He downplayed the seriousness of this disease in his press briefings after he saw stock prices drop as a consequence of it. He resisted ordering a nationwide shutdown because he wanted people to keep spending and keep producing. He is really eager to open everything back up while his business advisors are all telling him how much money they're losing with the shutdown. And, yes, after insisting he doesn't have the authority to shutdown states, he's also claiming he does have the authority to open them back up.

Republican philosophy for decades has claimed that government would run better if we ran it like a business and, naturally, that would mean we would have a businessman as president and we should do better, right? Well, they got what they want: a businessman is president. Unfortunately, when you're president of a modern nation, not all problems are economic. If you listen to economic advisors instead of scientific or medical advisors, you aren't going to be able to get through this.

[downbeatplumb]

Hey, Prof?  Trump has been pretty selective about when states have authority and when he has authority.  He's said, on more than one occasion, that he has the authority to make decisions about this virus, about the quarantine and about opening the country back up.  Observe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1MdGfv-W9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIBlaMkTMzQ

I'm sure if I did more than just a 2 minute youtube search, I'd find plenty more hits like that.  The point is, yes, Trump has said he absolutely has the authority to make decisions that you keep saying the states are supposed to make.  But he didn't.  He let the states shut down instead of doing things from a federal level because, from the very start, his actions indicate that he's been more worried about the stock market than he has this pandemic.  He told people to go to work sick because he didn't want to reduce productivity.  He downplayed the seriousness of this disease in his press briefings after he saw stock prices drop as a consequence of it.  He resisted ordering a nationwide shutdown because he wanted people to keep spending and keep producing.  He is really eager to open everything back up while his business advisors are all telling him how much money they're losing with the shutdown.  And, yes, after insisting he doesn't have the authority to shutdown states, he's also claiming he does have the authority to open them back up.  

Republican philosophy for decades has claimed that government would run better if we ran it like a business and, naturally, that would mean we would have a businessman as president and we should do better, right?  Well, they got what they want: a businessman is president.  Unfortunately, when you're president of a modern nation, not all problems are economic.  If you listen to economic advisors instead of scientific or medical advisors, you aren't going to be able to get through this.

To be fair to the republican philosophy they only have a very very bad business man as president. A half competent one may have done a better job. But you know...Trump.

[Prof.Lunaphiles]

Bit of advice for the professor: once you resort to invective and abuse, you’ve lost the argument.

Pack it in, old lovey. You’re out of your depth.

Boru

What's the purpose of this???

Do you believe that this forum deliberates valid arguments from invalid arguments?

I can guarantee you that that is the desire of just about everyone who has organized an internet forum, but the problem is nobody has figured out how to do it, yet.

But you think it is going on here. . .

Maybe, you just don't like me, because I have some valid arguments that challenge your thought processes and understanding of organization.

[downbeatplumb]

Maybe, you just don't like me, because I have some valid arguments that challenge your thought processes and understanding of organization.

Maybe not.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Bit of advice for the professor: once you resort to invective and abuse, you’ve lost the argument.

Pack it in, old lovey. You’re out of your depth.

Boru

What's the purpose of this???

Do you believe that this forum deliberates valid arguments from invalid arguments?

I can guarantee you that that is the desire of just about everyone who has organized an internet forum, but the problem is nobody has figured out how to do it, yet.

But you think it is going on here. . .

Maybe, you just don't like me, because I have some valid arguments that challenge your thought processes and understanding of organization.

No, I dislike you because you’re an insufferable twat.

Boru

[downbeatplumb]

What's the purpose of this???

Do you believe that this forum deliberates valid arguments from invalid arguments?

I can guarantee you that that is the desire of just about everyone who has organized an internet forum, but the problem is nobody has figured out how to do it, yet.

But you think it is going on here. . .

Maybe, you just don't like me, because I have some valid arguments that challenge your thought processes and understanding of organization.

No, I dislike you because you’re an insufferable twat.

Boru

I actually wrote something very similar but decided to pull my punch at the last moment.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So to Sum up

We keep pointing out that even according to Trump (when convenient) he's in charge and responsible and prof just wants to blame shift and make excuses to get Trump off the hook.

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Maybe, you just don't like me, because I have some valid arguments that challenge your thought processes and understanding of organization.

No we don't like you because you come off as a disingenuous person with a clear agenda you cloak in flowery nonesense .In his case you're clearly engaging in Trump apologetics and trying shift the blame for his failures onto everything else under the sun.

[The Grand Nudger]

They are responsible for representing their constituents

-and who are the president's consituents?

They do not have the power to regulate activities outside their jurisdiction; but they do have the power to set the example for other jurisdictions to emulate. All the President could do with his power that would have been completely rejected by you, would have been to issue mandatory residential isolation, enforced by martial law; and of course, to satisfy your lusts, he would have to issue the wartime production of ventilators for people who are going to die, because of their underlying health problems that weaken their immune system.

That sounds great.  Wartime mobilization to meet a pandemic?  Hooah!  Why we aren't already three months into it, at least, is a good question.  Ever seen how many liberty ships and strategic bombers we pumped out in ww2?  

You have been posting a lot, lately, and your ability to compose decent reading is declining. It's a sham, genius, wake the fuck up. The government is not adequately designed to deliberate and justify policy resolutions; which would more accurately describe incompetency and resolution of any security officer.

Yeah, weathers shit, can't go anywhere.  Turns out...and I don't know if you'd heard this or not...but america got hit by a plague while a uniquely unqualified president sat on his thumbs.

What the fuck are you trying to describe - country of personal responsibility???

How about you picking up the ball of personal responsibility. You obviously believe that you are smart, and can write shit - I can understand your essays - they are pretty good. But you are not going anywhere, because you are not willing to take responsibility for trying to solve problems before they happen - you are a 20/20 hindsight troll.

I don't write for a living.  I "do shit" for a living, lol. I write for the pure fun of it, and for watching you wallow around in your own filth trying to respond to it.

The problem is the government is improperly designed for a sophisticated and diverse society that expects a rational deliberation process and justification of policy resolutions.

Now, do you expect the President to generate a solution to the real problem with government?  


By the way, are you in favor of Joe Biden for president?

Whatever problems our government has..and they're too numerous to list off..none of them are made better by having the cretin-in-chief at the helm in an emergency.

Why has it become so taboo, or I guess just too much.... to insist on a president who wants the job, and can do the job. A job they volunteered for, and then swore an oath to do.

No, I'm not a dem voter. Guess you'll just have to bitch about joe biden to the clouds, huh?

[The Architect Of Fate]

They are responsible for representing their constituents

-and who are the president's consituents?

They do not have the power to regulate activities outside their jurisdiction; but they do have the power to set the example for other jurisdictions to emulate. All the President could do with his power that would have been completely rejected by you, would have been to issue mandatory residential isolation, enforced by martial law; and of course, to satisfy your lusts, he would have to issue the wartime production of ventilators for people who are going to die, because of their underlying health problems that weaken their immune system.

That sounds great.  Wartime mobilization to meet a pandemic?  Hooah!  Why we aren't already three months into it, at least, is a good question.  Ever seen how many liberty ships and strategic bombers we pumped out in ww2?  

You have been posting a lot, lately, and your ability to compose decent reading is declining. It's a sham, genius, wake the fuck up. The government is not adequately designed to deliberate and justify policy resolutions; which would more accurately describe incompetency and resolution of any security officer.

Yeah, weathers shit, can't go anywhere.  Turns out...and I don't know if you'd heard this or not...but america got hit by a plague while a uniquely unqualified president sat on his thumbs.

What the fuck are you trying to describe - country of personal responsibility???

How about you picking up the ball of personal responsibility. You obviously believe that you are smart, and can write shit - I can understand your essays - they are pretty good. But you are not going anywhere, because you are not willing to take responsibility for trying to solve problems before they happen - you are a 20/20 hindsight troll.

I don't write for a living.  I "do shit" for a living, lol.  I write for the pure fun of it, and for watching you wallow around in your own filth trying to respond to it.

The problem is the government is improperly designed for a sophisticated and diverse society that expects a rational deliberation process and justification of policy resolutions.

Now, do you expect the President to generate a solution to the real problem with government?  


By the way, are you in favor of Joe Biden for president?

Whatever problems our government has..and they're too numerous to list off..none of them are made better by having the cretin-in-chief at the helm in an emergency.

Why has it become so taboo, or I guess just too much.... to insist on a president who wants the job, and can do the job.  A job they volunteered for, and then swore an oath to do.

No, I'm not a dem voter.  Guess you'll just have to bitch about joe biden to the clouds, huh?

Good rod the lengths this guy will go to shift the blame 

What's wrong with acknowledging he messed up ? Obama messed up too more then once .

It's absurd

[TaraJo]

Maybe, you just don't like me, because I have some valid arguments that challenge your thought processes and understanding of organization.

I have yet to see a valid argument on your part.  You just seem to be claiming that Trump has never had any responsibility for Covid-19.  And you keep insisting this despite the mountain of evidence arguing otherwise.  

Turn off Faux News and Infowars and Breitbart and stop going to 8chan and stay away from r/The_Donald.  get some real news for a change.  I'm not saying you need to go to the far left side of things.  Just try to get away from propaganda in all its forms.