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God is a Mass Murderer
#71
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
Because it is. Not that it matters, since atheists don't believe in any of the christian gods.

None of them.

That's the definition of atheism, and we know you have alot of trouble with that. I honestly think that you should get a soapbox and lean in. Stand on a street corner yelling at undesirable atheists that they've got god and christianity all wrong, lol.
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#72
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 9, 2020 at 7:43 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(May 9, 2020 at 6:44 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Nah, he's just a bog standard cafeteria christian, taking what he likes, leaving the rest. I'm sure this is how god wanted it.

That's exactly the opposite of the truth.

I'm the one who points out that there are a million kinds of Christianity. I don't claim that any one of them is true, or that any one kind is "real" Christianity. 

Masoni, on the other hand, chooses one particular type and claims that's what Christianity is.
Yeah, you define cafeteria christian. You're just blind to the fact. Nothing new or interesting there.
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#73
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
Quote:The way they say it is inaccurate and would be misleading in other contexts, but it's obvious that masoni doesn't believe. It's true that he sounds angry at a God he doesn't believe in. And it's true he sometimes sounds irrational. But we should give him the benefit of the doubt. 
No he doesn't he sounds totally reasonable in his not angry objecion .Angers is a stereotype you are simply projecting on to him
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#74
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 9, 2020 at 8:02 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:The way they say it is inaccurate and would be misleading in other contexts, but it's obvious that masoni doesn't believe. It's true that he sounds angry at a God he doesn't believe in. And it's true he sometimes sounds irrational. But we should give him the benefit of the doubt. 
No he doesn't he sounds totally reasonable in his not angry objecion .Angers a serotype you are simply projecting on him
BUT! We have to be angry at god, otherwise we'd be rational, and that's pure kryptonite for religions.
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#75
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
The cafeteria god..of the philosophers...can't escape any criticism on body counts anyway. It might be the worst of the lot.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#76
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 9, 2020 at 8:07 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The cafeteria god..of the philosophers...can't escape any criticism on body counts anyway.  It might be the worst of the lot.

Might be, but the god-botherers have numbers on their side.
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#77
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
That's certainly part of how it became the worst of the lot. Even more fundamentally, though..nothing about picking and choosing which aspects of gods alleged nature changes anything about the nature of this world. It's a meatgrinder. This is the world that a god which asserts authority over is thus made responsible for.

As for being angry at god. There's another argument that god botherer's own goal with. Laying aside the hilarity in any attempt to smear the rejection of a faith as an emotional response...would having a strong negative emotional reaction to a faith -not- be a good reason...to reject that faith? How many hetero guys are out there blowing people right now?

It's all such a tedious line of bullshit, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#78
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 9, 2020 at 8:05 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 9, 2020 at 8:02 am)SUNGULA Wrote: No he doesn't he sounds totally reasonable in his not angry objecion .Angers a serotype you are simply projecting on him
BUT! We have to be angry at god, otherwise we'd be rational, and that's pure kryptonite for religions.
Well of course you need to fit the stereotype or they might have to actually argue with you
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#79
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
In mere reality, people have a strong emotional response towards retaining their faiths, or fitting in with the faiths of their peers. That's how the strong emotional response angle plays out. It's working for the god botherers, not against them.

It's a central component of all successful religious beliefs. Their ability to compell or create a profound emotional response that is effective in the world. Without that, they tend to piddle out, replaced by the next that can.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#80
RE: God is a Mass Murderer
(May 9, 2020 at 7:43 am)Belacqua Wrote: Masoni, on the other hand, chooses one particular type and claims that's what Christianity is.

Lol, why? Because he said that people in hell are tortured forever?

Well, I got a news for you: if you open "HarperCollins Bible Dictionary" you can see that under Hell it says in very first sentence "a place of eternal punishment for the wicked."

So maybe you should write a letter to theologians who wrote it how they are wrong.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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