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[Serious] Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
#41
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
(May 1, 2020 at 4:50 pm)theMadJW Wrote: I don't mean that as insult or as condescension.
It's simply the overwhelming FACTS!

All the different types of cells,constructed by so many molecules, constructed by near endless atoms,carrying out SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS, and linked together by a complex COMPUTER, which enables them all to to WORK TOGETHER- produced by Sheer Accidents is Beyupid (Beyond Stupid).

And that is only referring to living men and animals- not even including all the ecosystems that just 'happen' to provided the elements they need to survive- at JUST the right time!

The old and dead "complexity means design" BS.

Tonsils, wisdom teeth, nipples on men. The fact humans can choke on food and die because we share the same eating breathing tube. whereas whales and dolphins don't have that problem. And humans are hardly efficient at reproduction compared to other species. Million of sperm to one egg, most sperm die, most eggs die, most births are one baby per pregnancy. Whereas the average cockroach depending on species has about 15 offspring. 

Tell me what "function" COVID-19 has other than to replicate itself to the point of killing humans?
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#42
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
Seriously?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#43
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
(May 1, 2020 at 4:50 pm)theMadJW Wrote: I don't mean that as insult or as condescension.
It's simply the overwhelming FACTS!

All the different types of cells,constructed by so many molecules, constructed by near endless atoms,carrying out SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS, and linked together by a complex COMPUTER, which enables them all to to WORK TOGETHER- produced by Sheer Accidents is Beyupid (Beyond Stupid).

And that is only referring to living men and animals- not even including all the ecosystems that just 'happen' to provided the elements they need to survive- at JUST the right time!

These things aren't enough to convince people that there is a God. Many inventions came about by accident

The biggest error I see from atheists is how they say "well if u can't prove it then its not true". This is the logical fallacy of ignorance

Another false belief is that the immaterial (without physical form) doesn't exist. Consciousness, mathematics, electricity, wind and many more, all exist without physical form

Another is the fact that they cannot prove any other alternate theory. "I don't know the answer but your wrong". 
How can one know your wrong when they don't know the correct answer

I could go on but I think their the 3 dumbest things about atheism
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#44
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
(May 11, 2020 at 11:29 am)Agnostico Wrote:
(May 1, 2020 at 4:50 pm)theMadJW Wrote: I don't mean that as insult or as condescension.
It's simply the overwhelming FACTS!

All the different types of cells,constructed by so many molecules, constructed by near endless atoms,carrying out SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS, and linked together by a complex COMPUTER, which enables them all to to WORK TOGETHER- produced by Sheer Accidents is Beyupid (Beyond Stupid).

And that is only referring to living men and animals- not even including all the ecosystems that just 'happen' to provided the elements they need to survive- at JUST the right time!

These things aren't enough to convince people that there is a God. Many inventions came about by accident

The biggest error I see from atheists is how they say "well if u can't prove it then its not true". This is the logical fallacy of ignorance

Another false belief is that the immaterial (without physical form) doesn't exist. Consciousness, mathematics, electricity, wind and many more, all exist without physical form

Um, electricity and wind *are* physical. Air was even recognized as a type of matter by the ancient Greeks.

Mathematics only exists in our minds, As does consciousness, and our minds are physical processes in our brains.
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#45
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
What I hear atheists saying is that if you don't have convincing evidence and reasoning, it's not convincing to them. Not that it's not true, but no good reason has been given to think it IS true.

Sigh. New flash: Atheists (and materialists) are aware that consciousness, mathematics, electricity, wind, etc. exist. Do you think it's possible that you misunderstand the materialist position?

All the reason you need to justify not believing in something is to point out the reasons for believing it are seriously flawed. The correct answer is that the reasons you give for believing whatever it is you're selling are not convincing. If I don't believe your vacuum cleaner is worth the money; I'm not obliged in any way to buy a different vacuum cleaner.

I'm very pleased to see that the three dumbest things Agnosticl can think of about the position of not being convinced any gods exist are all fallacious.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#46
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
Quote:Another false belief is that the immaterial (without physical form) doesn't exist. Consciousness, mathematics, electricity, wind and many more, all exist without physical form
Consciousness is function of material things 

Electricity is most definitely material as it's made up of particles 

Math is a description of material things

wind is most definitely material as it's made up of particles

And there's a difference between materialism and physicalism
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#47
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
(May 11, 2020 at 11:29 am)Agnostico Wrote:
(May 1, 2020 at 4:50 pm)theMadJW Wrote: I don't mean that as insult or as condescension.
It's simply the overwhelming FACTS!

All the different types of cells,constructed by so many molecules, constructed by near endless atoms,carrying out SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS, and linked together by a complex COMPUTER, which enables them all to to WORK TOGETHER- produced by Sheer Accidents is Beyupid (Beyond Stupid).

And that is only referring to living men and animals- not even including all the ecosystems that just 'happen' to provided the elements they need to survive- at JUST the right time!

These things aren't enough to convince people that there is a God. Many inventions came about by accident

The biggest error I see from atheists is how they say "well if u can't prove it then its not true". This is the logical fallacy of ignorance

Another false belief is that the immaterial (without physical form) doesn't exist. Consciousness, mathematics, electricity, wind and many more, all exist without physical form

Another is the fact that they cannot prove any other alternate theory. "I don't know the answer but your wrong". 
How can one know your wrong when they don't know the correct answer

I could go on but I think their the 3 dumbest things about atheism

If everything is designed then Thor is the cause of lightning, or Poseidon is the cause of hurricanes.

And it is not up to the atheist to disprove any god. "God/god/gods/deities ARE CLAIMS, not scientific theories. 

Otherwise every god ever claimed in human history are all true at the same time. 

There is no "god theory" in science, there are just claims humans make with zero evidence.
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#48
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
Mister Agenda Wrote:Sigh. New flash: Atheists (and materialists) are aware that consciousness, mathematics, electricity, wind, etc. exist. Do you think it's possible that you misunderstand the materialist position?

The definition of something immaterial is without physical form. That's what I learnt anyway. 
Air, space, time, neither of these even come from something with a physical form

Mister Agenda Wrote:All the reason you need to justify not believing in something is to point out the reasons for believing it are seriously flawed. The correct answer is that the reasons you give for believing whatever it is you're selling are not convincing. If I don't believe your vacuum cleaner is worth the money; I'm not obliged in any way to buy a different vacuum cleaner.

Fair enough but many people say "that's not true" or "that's wrong" which is the logical fallacy of ignorance

Theists can't prove to me that God exists
Atheists can't prove to me that God doesn't exist
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#49
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
Air has physical form, you can weigh air (a container with air in it is heavier than one containing a vacuum), cool it enough and it turns to a liquid that you can see.
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

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#50
RE: Why I consider Atheists the Dumbest of the Dumb
(May 11, 2020 at 3:00 pm)Agnostico Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:Sigh. New flash: Atheists (and materialists) are aware that consciousness, mathematics, electricity, wind, etc. exist. Do you think it's possible that you misunderstand the materialist position?

The definition of something immaterial is without physical form. That's what I learnt anyway. 
Air, space, time, neither of these even come from something with a physical form

Mister Agenda Wrote:All the reason you need to justify not believing in something is to point out the reasons for believing it are seriously flawed. The correct answer is that the reasons you give for believing whatever it is you're selling are not convincing. If I don't believe your vacuum cleaner is worth the money; I'm not obliged in any way to buy a different vacuum cleaner.

Fair enough but many people say "that's not true" or "that's wrong" which is the logical fallacy of ignorance

Theists can't prove to me that God exists
Atheists can't prove to me that God doesn't exist

An invisible pink unicorn farted the universe into existence, now prove to me that didn't happen.

What you say? Absurd!

Ok, I then, I exist, and Angelina Jolie exists, now prove to me she has never given me a blowjob.

THAT is the problem with all claims on any subject. Naked assertions don't fucking mean shit. They certainly stroke the ego of the person or people that make the claim, but that does not constitute evidence. Otherwise blindly believing anything would mean I really did get a blowjob from Angelina Jolie.

Your logic works backwards. It stupidly assumes all things are true until disproved. 

If I claimed I had an invisible pink Lamborghini that you could not see with the naked eye, and offered to sell it to you for $100 bucks, please don't tell me you'd be that stupid to buy it.

That is how religion works.
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