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Why Statues In The First Place?
#21
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
Why did the statues exist?

Its because of the daughters of the confederacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Dau...onfederacy

Quote:he stated purposes of the organization includes the commemoration of Confederate States Army soldiers and the funding of the erection of memorials to these men. Many historians have described the organization's portrayal of the Confederate States of America (CSA), along with its promotion of the Lost Cause movement, as advocacy for white supremacy,[2][3][4][5][6][7] and have asserted that promotion of the Confederate tradition has been led by the UDC.[8] Until recent decades, the UDC was also involved in building monuments to commemorate the Ku Klux Klan.[7][9]

Quote:During the period 1880–1910, the UDC was one of many groups that celebrated Lost Cause mythology and presented "a romanticized view of the slavery era" in the United States.[4] The UDC promoted white Southern solidarity, allowing white Southerners to refer to a mythical past in order to legitimize racial segregation and white supremacy.[45] The UDC worked to "define southern identity around images from an Old South that portrayed slavery as benign and slaves as happy and a Reconstruction that portrayed blacks as savage and immoral."[46] Their lost cause narrative was codified in their “Measuring Rod to Test Text Books and Reference Books,”[47] which UDC chapters unanimously endorsed and used to infect their false, white supremacist views in school curriculum across the South.[48] Historian James M. McPherson has said that the present-day UDC promotes a white supremacist and neo-Confederate agenda,[49] saying

I think I agree a hundred percent with Ed Sebesta, though, about the motives or the hidden agenda not too deeply hidden I think of such groups as the United Daughters of the Confederacy and the Sons of the Confederate Veterans. They are dedicated to celebrating the Confederacy and rather thinly veiled support for white supremacy. And I think that also is the again not very deeply hidden agenda of the Confederate flag issue in several Southern states.[50]

The Southern Poverty Law Center considers the UDC as part of the Neo-Confederate movement that began in the early 1980s, which the Center states is "a reactionary conservative ideology that has made inroads into the Republican Party from the political right, and overlaps with the views of white nationalists and other more radical extremist groups."[51][52] In August 2018, its website still stated that "Slaves, for the most part, were faithful and devoted. Most slaves were usually ready and willing to serve their masters."[53]



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#22
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
Those people had to contextualize why their good fathers died. What's our excuse, today.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#23
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
It is wrong and illegal for mobs to destroy public or privately owned statues. It doesn't matter what they believe the statue represents or what they think the historical character believed.

Teddy Roosevelt? Abraham Lincoln? Come on!
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#24
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
I doubt very much that even Roosevelt would have approved of a statue of him. The one of Lincoln that’s come under fire isn’t so much about Lincoln, per se, as it is the way he’s represented.

Boru
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#25
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
Illegal, yes. Wrong? Well that's entirely subjective.
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#26
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
If you believe that violating the civil rights of citizens is fine then you might think it's ok. But I think that's what these people are protesting. Aren't they?
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#27
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
(June 29, 2020 at 8:39 pm)Lek Wrote: If you believe that violating the civil rights of citizens is fine then you might think it's ok. But I think that's what these people are protesting.  Aren't they?

Where is the ‘civil right’ to put up a statue commemorating enemies of the United States on public property?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#28
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
In the constitution. If you think that Abraham Lincoln or whoever was an enemy of the US, let's have a hearing and decide on it. I wonder if most of the people tearing down statues have any idea about what these figures stand for.
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#29
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
Let's replace all statues on the planet with statues of Jimi Hendrix. Pretty sure he wasn't from this planet.
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#30
RE: Why Statues In The First Place?
(June 29, 2020 at 9:33 pm)no one Wrote: Let's replace all statues on the planet with statues of Jimi Hendrix. Pretty sure he wasn't from this planet.

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