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RE: Who is the last prophet?
September 24, 2020 at 4:39 pm
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(September 24, 2020 at 1:38 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I always get a kick out of you imagining that your efforts here are a good demonstration of your direct line to god.
whats a good demonstration is me being here since 2012 and the effort time research i put into my post and the fact that i go line by line for just about every serious post any one of you makes. barring one guy as he was nothing more than a troll. even then always gave him a way to redeem himself/a chance to be taken seriously again.
(September 24, 2020 at 2:26 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: (September 24, 2020 at 1:22 pm)Drich Wrote: there are no prophets in christianity. in the book of acts chapter 2 the holy Spirit was poured over the people/believers. meaning what was only avible to prophets in every other religion (direct contact with God/how much depends on you) is given to everyone. that is what my whole ASK thing is about. it is about you approaching God for your measure of the holy Spirit/Have God work with you one on one directly. because we have access to the holy Spirit and he can be our teacher We do not need prophets priests ect. just one another to be accountable to.
Hmm. I can think of a number of Jehovah's Witnesses who would strongly disagree with your assessment.
JW's by name/definition are not christians. so what does it matter?
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RE: Who is the last prophet?
September 25, 2020 at 12:32 am
(September 24, 2020 at 4:39 pm)Drich Wrote: JW's by name/definition are not christians. so what does it matter?
JWs believe in Jesus and that rapture is near - so what are they if not Christians?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Who is the last prophet?
September 25, 2020 at 2:54 am
(September 24, 2020 at 6:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: (September 24, 2020 at 6:18 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Really, who is supposed to be the last prophet of Christianity or is this vocation still opened?
Of course, Mormons will say it was Joseph Smith who is last, but what about non-Mormons?
It seems to me that most Christians consider Jesus to be the last prophet, but then again there was Paul in the Bible who talked to God in heaven and also got some new commands from God – sometimes even different than Jesus’s. And then there is so-called “John” who wrote the “Apocalypse”.
I hate that word being attached to one religion. It is merely a bullshit superstitious word, to claim to "foresee" or "predict" the future.
Other words used throughout humanity worldwide have been words like "Oracle" "soothsayer" " psychic".
Even the mythology of Buddha had his mother "Queen Maya" being told by the divine world, BEFORE HAND, that she would give birth to a boy who would bring wisdom to the world.
There is no such thing as a "prophet". There are only human beings who want a super hero and work to retrofit a narrative to fit their desires after the fact.
It depends upon how one understands the meaning of "prophet". My understanding of the OT prophets is they were not so much predicting the future as warning that if you go down this path the consequences will be dire.
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RE: Who is the last prophet?
September 25, 2020 at 11:38 am
(September 25, 2020 at 12:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (September 24, 2020 at 4:39 pm)Drich Wrote: JW's by name/definition are not christians. so what does it matter?
JWs believe in Jesus and that rapture is near - so what are they if not Christians? top three reason JW disqualify themselves from christianity.. (meaning the worship of Christ as the son of God) their version of the word has a different meaning..
If they believe in Jesus they believe in his teachings. the most important thing he said was you can not blaspheme the holy spirit. this was one of the most important things he said because there is no forgiveness for it. so one you can claim to follow jesus if you ignore his teachings especially on subject matter where jesus states there is no forgiveness. JW say there is no holy Spirit.
two then they do not believe Jesus was resurrected from the dead, which is the crux of christianity. it proves Jesus is God and what he said and promised ad power and authority. if there is no resurrection there is not forgiveness of sin. as his resurrection is supposed to represent all of those who believe in him that will be resurrected. this shows jesus had power over the grave and death could not contain him/son of God and therefore can not contain his followers either. so you can not be a christian if jesus did not come back from the dead.
so if jesus is not God then according to them what is he? as the bible tells it the holy Spirit placed the seed of Jesus' life in marry's womb. since they have no holy Spirit marry was impregnated by an angel which means again Jesus is not god but a hybrid, like the neipheim God hated and destroyed the world over via the flood.
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RE: Who is the last prophet?
September 25, 2020 at 12:00 pm
(September 25, 2020 at 11:38 am)Drich Wrote: JW say there is no holy Spirit.
That's not true. They see The Holy Spirit as described as God's "active force", rather than the third part of the Trinity.
But anyway, Christian squabbles about "exact" interpretations of the Gospels where members of different denominations accuse each other of not being Christians don't hold water.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Who is the last prophet?
September 26, 2020 at 12:16 am
(September 25, 2020 at 12:00 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (September 25, 2020 at 11:38 am)Drich Wrote: JW say there is no holy Spirit.
That's not true. They see The Holy Spirit as described as God's "active force", rather than the third part of the Trinity.
But anyway, Christian squabbles about "exact" interpretations of the Gospels where members of different denominations accuse each other of not being Christians don't hold water.
Indeed, according to Wikipedia, Jehovah's Witnesses are classified as nontrinitarian Christians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism
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RE: Who is the last prophet?
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