What explains Macron’s obsession with Islam and Muslims?

[WinterHold]

Do you disagree with Macrons position?  That islam is a faith in crisis globally?  That islamists have, as you put it, made your societies bleed since the 70's?

Well, that's the basic premise of secularism.  That a theocracy abuses by it's nature, and cannot help but to abuse along whatever lines superstition demands.  That a properly functioning government -for all of a country's people- will prevent this abuse and reject it's claim to legitimacy through legality.  That we can enjoy freedom of and from religion in government.

Do you have these freedoms?  What do you think about them?  Are they worth fighting for, as a person who's seen a religious bent bleed a global society for 50 years?

I didn't say "Islamists" are destructive, I said "Islamic extremists" are:

WinterHold said:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-61863-p...pid2006030

More and more Muslims have begun to despise the extremist Muslims who made our societies bleed since the 70s; Especially after ISIS's role in demolishing Syria; Muslims had enough. Now we will simply follow the Quran literally and boycott that who makes fun of our faith:

As for secularism, opinions vary so as examples; just like there are Muslim extremists there are also secular extremists.

Neither Macron nor a Million like him would change the faith I choose.

[The Grand Nudger]

Do you disagree with Macrons position?  That islam is a faith in crisis globally?  That islamists have, as you put it, made your societies bleed since the 70's?

Well, that's the basic premise of secularism.  That a theocracy abuses by it's nature, and cannot help but to abuse along whatever lines superstition demands.  That a properly functioning government -for all of a country's people- will prevent this abuse and reject it's claim to legitimacy through legality.  That we can enjoy freedom of and from religion in government.

Do you have these freedoms?  What do you think about them?  Are they worth fighting for, as a person who's seen a religious bent bleed a global society for 50 years?

I didn't say "Islamists" are destructive, I said "Islamic extremists" are:

Is·lam·ist
/ˈizlaməst/

noun

1. an advocate or supporter of Islamic militancy or fundamentalism.
   "radical Islamists"
   
   

adjective

1. relating to, advocating, or supporting Islamic militancy or fundamentalism.
   "hardline Islamist groups"
   
   

As for secularism, opinions vary so as examples; just like there are Muslim extremists there are also secular extremists.

Tell me, in your opinion, what does it mean to be a secular extremist?  

Neither Macron nor a Million like him would change the faith I choose.

Secularism has nothing to do with changing your faith.  It protects your faith. This goes directly to the question above, ofc. A secular extremist would be a term for a person who is motivated by and engaged in aggressively securing your freedom of and from religion.

[WinterHold]

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LoLed after revising the number of Muslim Algerians massacred by France:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_War

• 250,000–300,000 (including 55,000[18] to 250,000[19][20] civilians) Algerian casualties (French estimate)
  

~1,500,000 total Algerians deaths (FLN estimate)

Macron's state historically almost massacred a whole population.
And now he wants to carry on in the footsteps of his ancestors and begin a new war as it seems.

[The Grand Nudger]

That guy must be a real beast if he managed to kill 1.5 million people in a war that ended 15 years before he was born. Then he gets them coming and going, right, by making the first steps towards reconciliation and officially acknowledging frances wrongdoing in that conflict. The Great Western Satan is clever.

How many khashoggis have you killed today, Winter?

[WinterHold]

That guy must be a real beast if he managed to kill 1.5 million people in a war that ended 15 years before he was born.  Then he gets them coming and going, right, by making the first steps towards reconciliation and officially acknowledging frances wrongdoing in that conflict.  The Great Western Satan is clever.

How many khashoggis have you killed today, Winter?

*I said "Macron's state".

Believe it or not, 72% of French people have positive opinions about Muslims:

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/...ty-groups/

Solid majorities of people in the United Kingdom, France, the Netherlands, Germany and Sweden have positive opinions of Muslims in their country

So crazy Macron must have something else in his brain. He is not on the same page with his people.
Leave the west aside; this fucker is serving another wing. He is on the same page with Trump and the new anti-Muslim wing., or anti-Turkey ?

[The Grand Nudger]

Secularism has nothing to do with opinions of x in a country (and is most beneficial when the opinions of x are decidedly negative). I think that you may be confusing macron and his ilk with their recent challengers, Le Pen et al. Those would be the people out of step with positive opinions of muslims in their country, insomuch as they exist.

[Duty]

What explains Macron’s obsession with Islam and Muslims

All the oppression of women and terrorism caused by Islam? Islam's idolisation of a paedophile and thief as the ultimate example of how to be decent?

[Deesse23]

But just like Muslim extremists; French extremists are also long overdue for retirement. It's not the era of Napoleon anymore.

You are such a monumental idot.

He was a tyrant, but no extremist. Quite the contrary.

Napoleons code civil was valid in most of Germany until the empire (1870-1918), long after Napoleon was dead.
Lage parts of Napoleons "code civil" are still the foundation of the modern french and german common laws. Single portions of it were valid in Germany until 1970, more than 150 years after it was introduced. It is also the foundation of swiss common law and was valid until 1912. Many countries across the world based their common law on this, up to Japan in 1898.

So, yes, its still the era of Napoleon somehow, thanks to Napoleon.

Seriously, how do you manage to be so ignorant? This cant be done without serious effort! Noone can be that ignorant by sheer accident.