Aren't Judaism and Aryanism the same thing?

[Sweden83]

2: They look down upon NonJews(Goyim)/Jews. As a rule, not anymore. For the most part, the Jewish people have assimilated, and most of the world has come around to the idea that Anti-Semitism is bad, therefore there's really no need to. Things may be different in Israel, but if that's what you're talking about, keep your claims specific and to the point.

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Here is my question. Why dont Hebrews denounce judaism? You dont see Germans go around being proud of being Aryan?

[The Grand Nudger]

Don't you mean why don't jews denounce ethnocentrism? They do. They're pretty vocal about it on account of some event or another.

[Sweden83]

Don't you mean why don't jews denounce ethnocentrism?  They do.

Thats not what i mean. Why is it that you can be a Jew, but not an Aryan? If they both have racist roots in them, then why support it? Why rely on a identity that encourages racism

[The Grand Nudger]

Obviously a person can be either...and even both!

A slight point of difference is that it's possible to be jewish and not an ethnocentrist, whereas it is not possible to be a white supremacist..but not an ethnocentrist.

[Rev. Rye]

2: They look down upon NonJews(Goyim)/Jews. As a rule, not anymore. For the most part, the Jewish people have assimilated, and most of the world has come around to the idea that Anti-Semitism is bad, therefore there's really no need to. Things may be different in Israel, but if that's what you're talking about, keep your claims specific and to the point.

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Here is my question. Why dont Hebrews denounce judaism? You dont see Germans go around being proud of being Aryan?

A) Jews, as a rule, tend to take the parts of Judaism that work with modern life and disregard the parts that don’t. And the ethnocentric parts really fucking don’t.
B) Also, the idea of Aryan as you speak of it came into being largely as a racist misinterpretation of Hindu texts that ended up in the deaths of millions of people. And, in fact, while there was probably an Aryan culture, Germans/Nordic people ain’t it. In fact, one of the groups decimated in the Holocaust (the Roma) was probably closer to the historic Aryans (Indo-Iranians) than the Germans who co-opted it.

[Sweden83]

Here is my question. Why dont Hebrews denounce judaism? You dont see Germans go around being proud of being Aryan?

A) Jews, as a rule, tend to take the parts of Judaism that work with modern life and disregard the parts that don’t. And the ethnocentric parts really fucking don’t.
B) Also, the idea of Aryan as you speak of it came into being largely as a racist misinterpretation of Hindu texts that ended up in the deaths of millions of people. And, in fact, while there was probably an Aryan culture, Germans/Nordic people ain’t it. In fact, one of the groups decimated in the Holocaust (the Roma) was probably closer to the historic Aryans (Indo-Iranians) than the Germans who co-opted it.

I always thought Aryanism was based on Aryan Migration theory?. There is a map gif of it on Wikipedia if you look up "Indo-Aryan migrations"
edit: But i just dont understand why they cant denounce it? Its not like one encourages anti semitism if one is cool with Hebrews. Just like one isnt anti german for being against Aryanism

[The Grand Nudger]

I checked wiki like you asked...this is what it says.

Aryanism is an ideology of racial supremacy which views the supposed Aryan race as a distinct and superior racial group entitled to rule the rest of humanity.

Now, it's certainly true that white supremacists use all sorts of other things to disseminate their propaganda. Sometimes it even seems scientific. You know..charts and graphs and maps and shit.

[Rev. Rye]

And Wikipedia’s page on “Aryan Race” explains how people bastardized the Indo-Aryan migrations to justify their own preferred racial wonkery.

[Sweden83]

I checked wiki like you asked...this is what it says.

Aryanism is an ideology of racial supremacy which views the supposed Aryan race as a distinct and superior racial group entitled to rule the rest of humanity.

Now, it's certainly true that white supremacists use all sorts of other things to disseminate their propaganda.  Sometimes it even seems scientific.

Wrong wikipedia link. Thats what Nazis proposed. Search this up "Indo-Aryan migrations", click the first link you see of wikipedia. Then click the picture to the right.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yes, aryanism is what the nazis proposed.