Aren't Judaism and Aryanism the same thing?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yes, aryanism is what the nazis proposed.

Well i cant link it yet. So you probably arent gonna find the map of migration theory.
Also as someone who has studied history. Reason Judaism became even a thing was because empires warred at Canaan all the time " vassal state Canaan "belonging to Egypt at the time" was an alltime warzone. So having a belief you were superior was what came out of it. I guess the same idea flourished in Germany with a chosen race of their own. It was 3 factors
1: Poverty, inflation.
2: Scapegoating
3: Make yourself feel like you are worth something

But Judaism and Aryanism kind of share that same mentality of how it was made.

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Tell me what you think 'Hebrews' means.

Boru

A semitic group of middle east region, particular to Israel.

Nope.

Boru

[Sweden83]

The name it used "𐤉𐤔𐤓𐤀𐤋" which means Israel, or (j.s.r.ʔ.l) in latin letters, old hebrew letters (canaanite language). Its said to mean "Ancient Kingdom" on reference, which is different to what i am used too? Which is "Triumphant with God

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The name it used "𐤉𐤔𐤓𐤀𐤋" which means Israel, or (j.s.r.ʔ.l) in latin letters, old hebrew letters (canaanite language). Its said to mean "Ancient Kingdom" on reference, which is different to what i am used too? Which is "Triumphant with God

Closer. ‘Hebrew’, when referring to people, is essentially a synonym for Jew (although the term is now considered somewhat derogatory - no Jewish person refers to himself as ‘a Hebrew’).

So what your asking is actually, ‘Why don’t Jews repudiate Judaism?’ That’s a remarkably stupid question.

Boru

[Sweden83]

The name it used "𐤉𐤔𐤓𐤀𐤋" which means Israel, or (j.s.r.ʔ.l) in latin letters, old hebrew letters (canaanite language). Its said to mean "Ancient Kingdom" on reference, which is different to what i am used too? Which is "Triumphant with God

Closer. ‘Hebrew’, when referring to people, is essentially a synonym for Jew (although the term is now considered somewhat derogatory - no Jewish person refers to himself as ‘a Hebrew’).

So what your asking is actually, ‘Why don’t Jews repudiate Judaism?’ That’s a remarkably stupid question.

Boru

Well i guess if you dont call Germans for Aryans, that means you are being derogatory towards them? That doesnt make sense though

I just dont see how its ok for one belief system to believe in racist ideas is all? But i dont see Hebrews as derogatory. You dont think using Hindus is derogatory towards Indians do you?

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Although when i think about it. Mormonism i guess is the closest to Aryan Religion (not that i believe in it)

[The Grand Nudger]

Yes, aryanism is what the nazis proposed.

Well i cant link it yet. So you probably arent gonna find the map of migration theory.

Why would any migration theory matter?  You wondered whether judaism and aryanism were the same thing, and whether jews should denounce judaism if white supremacists should denounce aryanism.  You do seem to have understood that aryanism wasn't a migration theory when you asked the question. You did describe what you meant

They both believe in a masterrace to rule the world
2: They look down upon NonJews(Goyim)/Jews.
3: Writings of how inferior they are compared to the chosen ones
4: One is a religion the other never developed into one
5: Even if Jeans was made by Jews and cool Uniforms was made by nazis, that still doesnt mean that i have to like them ideologically
6: Germans were good at warfare, Jews however werent good at warfare historically
7: Germany for Germans, Israel for Hebrews. America for Americans, Arabia for Arabs.

...and it wasn't a migration theory.

Fun little aside, struggles with god or wrestles with god is probably the best fit.  

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Jacob Wrestles With God
22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. 23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. 24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. 25 When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. 26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”
“Jacob,” he answered.
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”
But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.
30 So Jacob called the place Peniel,[b] saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”
31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel,[c] and he was limping because of his hip. 32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched near the tendon.

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-one of my faves

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Closer. ‘Hebrew’, when referring to people, is essentially a synonym for Jew (although the term is now considered somewhat derogatory - no Jewish person refers to himself as ‘a Hebrew’).

So what your asking is actually, ‘Why don’t Jews repudiate Judaism?’ That’s a remarkably stupid question.

Boru

Well i guess if you dont call Germans for Aryans, that means you are being derogatory towards them? That doesnt make sense though

I just dont see how its ok for one belief system to believe in racist ideas is all? But i dont see Hebrews as derogatory. You dont think using Hindus is derogatory towards Indians do you?

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Although when i think about it. Mormonism i guess is the closest to Aryan Religion (not that i believe in it)

1. That’s because ‘German’ and ‘Aryan’ don’t mean the same thing.

2. It ISN’T ok for a belief system to be racist, but it’s probably unavoidable, given the nature of belief systems.

3. If you don’t think ‘Hebrews’ is derogatory, go to the next gathering at your local synagogue and shout out, ‘Wazzup, my Hebrews!!’ 

4. ‘Hindu’ is the name of a religion to which a majority of Indians (a nationality) belong, so of course it isn’t derogatory - it’s descriptive. But the cases aren’t at all parallel.

Boru

[Rev. Rye]

Even assuming that the Aryan Migration is accurate and the Germans are among their descendants (along with virtually all the peoples of Europe except for the Basques, what with their all using Indo-European languages), A) the name Aryan has been tainted by its association with the Nazis and the bullshit racial theories that were attached to it, and B) frankly, using the term Aryan for a modern group because their ancestors 4 millennia ago bore the same name is just strange and antiquated when the culture has changed so much since then and acquired different names that have stuck.

Also, claiming that the original Aryan religion was most similar to a faith which claims the original inhabitants of America were white and became darker-skinned as a result of God cursing the survivors after a war isn’t really helping your case.

[The Grand Nudger]

He didn't ask us whether germans should denounce being german. I think he knows the difference. It's okay, this might have been the first time he'd ever tried that argument. It went pear shaped, so now we're on the the blood portion of blood and soil.

Interestingly enough, it turns out that "aryan" languages..german, english, swedish.... are oddballs in the indo-european group for a strong relationship to semitic languages. That probably suggests..oh... what should we call it, mixed heritage?

[Sweden83]

Also, claiming that the original Aryan religion was most similar to a faith which claims the original inhabitants of America were white and became darker-skinned as a result of God cursing the survivors after a war isn’t really helping your case.

I actually read Book of Mormon once (well Audiobook of it) and i dont remember that part in the book. But i guess for whatever reason in the 70s they said God has made it ok if you are black, and they probably now view it as a symbolic curse. (But then again i have not asked what Mormons mean when they say that to begin with)

Although what is interesting with Racism and slavery is, USA had actual racism when it came to slavery so its why its mistrust even to this day that political groups have found ways to exploit peoples emotions on it. Unlike South America that also had slavery, but it didnt actually have racism. So they get along fine with one another

[The Grand Nudger]

Yikes. South America isn't a racism free zone. Never has been. Wasn't before the colonials showed up...certainly hasn't been since.

Which political groups exploiting which emotions? Anything in specific...american racism is kind of like wine to me. True to american form, our racists are a fractious lot.