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(January 26, 2021 at 5:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Right, you can’t indict a sitting president, but that’s not what you asked earlier.
It’s moot - Trump is no longer a sitting president (which is why John Roberts isn’t presiding at the upcoming trial) and can be indicted for whatever a grand jury decides to indict him for.
Boru
There is nothing in US law that says you can't indict a sitting president. It's merely a DOJ "memo".
Someone should get off their ass, and write a new memo.
Yabut, this provides a great "Get Out Of Jail Free" card, now that it has been written. What politician could possibly pass that up? I totally agree that a new memo should be written, though.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
January 31, 2021 at 7:52 pm (This post was last modified: January 31, 2021 at 7:53 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(January 30, 2021 at 12:08 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(January 26, 2021 at 5:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Right, you can’t indict a sitting president, but that’s not what you asked earlier.
It’s moot - Trump is no longer a sitting president (which is why John Roberts isn’t presiding at the upcoming trial) and can be indicted for whatever a grand jury decides to indict him for.
Boru
There is nothing in US law that says you can't indict a sitting president. It's merely a DOJ "memo".
Someone should get off their ass, and write a new memo.
Of course it isn't law. You're correct - it's a DOJ memo. Which means it's DOJ policy not to indict a sitting president. DOJ, like all government agencies, follow the policies they create for themselves. And guess who would have to indict a sitting president?
The Department of Justice.
Guess who the Department of Justice works for?
The President.
Christ on a bike, Brian.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
February 2, 2021 at 5:54 pm (This post was last modified: February 2, 2021 at 5:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Team Treason is going with the freeze peach defense, and spreads The Big Lie in their official response to impeachment.
Quote:Admitted in part, denied in part, and denied as irrelevant to any matter
properly before the Senate. It is admitted that on January 6, 2021 a joint
session of Congress met with the Vice President, the House and the Senate, to
count the votes of the Electoral College. It is admitted that after the November
election, the 45th President exercised his First Amendment right under the
Constitution to express his belief that the election results were suspect, since
with very few exceptions, under the convenient guise of Covid-19 pandemic
“safeguards” states election laws and procedures were changed by local
politicians or judges without the necessary approvals from state legislatures.
Insufficient evidence exists upon which a reasonable jurist could conclude that
the 45th President’s statements were accurate or not, and he therefore denies
they were false. Like all Americans, the 45th President is protected by the First
5
Amendment. Indeed, he believes, and therefore avers, that the United States is
unique on Earth in that its governing documents, the Constitution and Bill of
Rights, specifically and intentionally protect unpopular speech from
government retaliation. If the First Amendment protected only speech the
government deemed popular in current American culture, it would be no
protection at all. Since the 45th President is no longer “President,” the
Constitutional clause at Averment 1 above ‘shall be removed from Office on
Impeachment for…’ is impossible since the 45th President does not hold office
and the current proceeding before the Senate is void ab initio as a legal nullity
rendering Averment 4 irrelevant to any matter properly before the Senate.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(February 2, 2021 at 5:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Team Treason is going with the freeze peach defense, and spreads The Big Lie in their official response to impeachment.
Quote:Admitted in part, denied in part, and denied as irrelevant to any matter
properly before the Senate. It is admitted that on January 6, 2021 a joint
session of Congress met with the Vice President, the House and the Senate, to
count the votes of the Electoral College. It is admitted that after the November
election, the 45th President exercised his First Amendment right under the
Constitution to express his belief that the election results were suspect, since
with very few exceptions, under the convenient guise of Covid-19 pandemic
“safeguards” states election laws and procedures were changed by local
politicians or judges without the necessary approvals from state legislatures.
Insufficient evidence exists upon which a reasonable jurist could conclude that
the 45th President’s statements were accurate or not, and he therefore denies
they were false. Like all Americans, the 45th President is protected by the First
5
Amendment. Indeed, he believes, and therefore avers, that the United States is
unique on Earth in that its governing documents, the Constitution and Bill of
Rights, specifically and intentionally protect unpopular speech from
government retaliation. If the First Amendment protected only speech the
government deemed popular in current American culture, it would be no
protection at all. Since the 45th President is no longer “President,” the
Constitutional clause at Averment 1 above ‘shall be removed from Office on
Impeachment for…’ is impossible since the 45th President does not hold office
and the current proceeding before the Senate is void ab initio as a legal nullity
rendering Averment 4 irrelevant to any matter properly before the Senate.
Why not? It's all the treason caucus needs to give their boy a pass.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
We hope. His ex lawyer contends that a kenosha police captain told them to lie. To protect poor Kyle.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!