Hey Portland - you might get what you deserve.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Nope. Criticism of a law is a different thing than hating a group of people. Learn what the word hate means.It does not mean what you think it means.

Using criticisms of the law as a backdoor way to hate on transpeople is no less hateful and cowardly on top of that.

I think the non-authoritarian trans folks are dope. 

Lol "non-authoritarian trans folks" there's a bullshit distinction if there ever was one.

You are the one full of hatred, disappointed that the January 6th protesters weren't mowed down with bullets by the police.

First off they were not protestors they were insurrectionists and to my knowledge, no one here expressed that opinion.

 I am incapable of hate. I see people as grizzly bears. We have the same amount of free will as they do, so why would I hate anyone for doing what the universe made them do? 

Wow and just when I think you can't get any worst essentially strip people of their humanity and your telling me you don't hate people 

I don't believe in hate. I don't believe in race either, and perhaps I should have made it Brock Lesnar in a women's prison instead. Mike Tyson was brought into it because he is basically the poster boy for tough guys who are physical freaks of nature. Not everything is about race. I understand that the definition of racism and transphobia is in the eye of the beholder though. I don't care if I'm called either of those things. Lil Wayne says he's never had anyone be racist to him in his whole life, but you can find black people who say they experience racism like 15 times a day. It all comes down to interpretation and how you choose to take things. How paranoid you are being in looking for racism. If you look for it, you're going to find it.

And now gone full lunatic pretending racism and bigotry are just opinions rather than well-established facts. You are absurd 

Really mature telling someone to fuck themselves because they disagree with you on bone structure and lung capacity. Trans women and biological women are different. A trans woman can not perfectly be turned into a cis woman. I understand that hormones alter these things to an extent, but a complete physical transformation to the opposite sex in all ways, is not possible at this time. But yeah, I'm hateful because I have different thoughts about bone structure and lung capacity. That's so much worse than having fantasies about my political enemies being mowed down by bullets like you do.

There rightly you to fuck off because your wrong and wiggling desperately to maintain your bullshit opinions. This isn't a matter of a difference in opinion so can take that bullshit tactic and insert it sideways. Your wrong so fuck of, And no one here said they want there political enemies mowed down idiot.


Christ, you are the worst 

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It is current year, ya know. Things are evolving quickly in the era of woke. I was the only one here who stated they have a problem with Mike Tyson being a cellmate with a bio woman in a women's prison. Everyone else who expressed their opinion on the matter was cool with Mike Tyson shacking up with a biological woman. Am I living in bizarro world here? Is it just me?

Wow, distortion city. The argument was if Mike Tyson came as Trans and was sent to a women's prison it would be more or less dangerous than if they were bunked with another inmate. Because you know violent criminals are bad regardless of sex or gender. But nobody endorsed this idea.

God get your shit straight 

"To be hating on trans people." Oh, now I see that you didn't mean hate literally. You meant it in the hip "why you being such a hater?" slang way. That's a little better I guess. At least you're not accusing me of literally committing a hate crime or some shit haha. Thanks for clearing that up.

My bad about calling them protesters. Rioters then.

I borrowed the grizzly bear line from Sam Harris. He says he sees people as grizzly bears. Tell me the difference in the level of free will between us and them, and I'll change my stance. If it doesn't make sense to hate a grizzly bear, then it follows that it also doesn't make sense to hate any human. We are merely the universe playing itself out. It's all just a movie, and our scripts are written for us. Of course you would interpret my comment there as me graduating from racist to now hating all humans because I compared us to another animal (by ripping off Sam Harris). Understanding that we lack free will actually helps people show more compassion towards people like the poor souls sitting there in prison because of their biology and environment. Understanding about a lack of free will can turn people against the death penalty, and make them more likely to want more livable conditions for prisoners. Seeing people as grizzly bears is actually a great thing and should make you more compassionate. Not the other way around.

And I never claimed racism and bigotry don't exist. There's plenty of it. And... I'm finally ready to say it... Whiteness is bad. There, I said (wrote) it. Going by one of the definitions of whiteness, that can perhaps be seen as a true statement, but I'll never be on board with calling it whiteness. Just not a good look. Of course there is plenty of real racism, but my point was, that plenty of it comes down to interpretation. There is a reason Lil Wayne says he's never experienced racism vs others saying they experience it multiple times a day. A guy walking past gives you a look you didn't care for, so you interpret it as racism. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. And it's hard to actually believe no one has ever been racist to Lil Wayne. Perhaps they were and he just didn't realize it. Grand Nudger assumed that I only brought up the hypothetical scenario with Tyson because of racism. No one was even thinking that until Grand Nudger threw out the accusation.

[The Architect Of Fate]

"To be hating on trans people." Oh, now I see that you didn't mean hate literally. You meant it in the hip "why you being such a hater?" slang way. That's a little better I guess. At least you're not accusing me of literally committing a hate crime or some shit haha. Thanks for clearing that up.

No

My bad about calling them protesters. Rioters then.

The Jan 6th right-wing nutters were a band of insurrectionists, not rioters.

I borrowed the grizzly bear line from Sam Harris. He says he sees people as grizzly bears. Tell me the difference in the level of free will between us and them, and I'll change my stance. If it doesn't make sense to hate a grizzly bear, then it follows that it also doesn't make sense to hate any human. We are merely the universe playing itself out. It's all just a movie, and our scripts are written for us. Of course you would interpret my comment there as me graduating from racist to now hating all humans because I compared us to another animal (by ripping off Sam Harris). Understanding that we lack free will actually helps people show more compassion towards people like the poor souls sitting there in prison because of their biology and environment. Understanding about a lack of free will can turn people against the death penalty, and make them more likely to want more livable conditions for prisoners. Seeing people as grizzly bears is actually a great thing and should make you more compassionate. Not the other way around.

No, it isn't a good way of seeing people. It's totally dehumanizing even if hard determinism is true (which it's not)

[Irreligious Atheist]

"To be hating on trans people." Oh, now I see that you didn't mean hate literally. You meant it in the hip "why you being such a hater?" slang way. That's a little better I guess. At least you're not accusing me of literally committing a hate crime or some shit haha. Thanks for clearing that up.

No

My bad about calling them protesters. Rioters then.

The Jan 6th right-wing nutters were a band of insurrectionists, not rioters.

I borrowed the grizzly bear line from Sam Harris. He says he sees people as grizzly bears. Tell me the difference in the level of free will between us and them, and I'll change my stance. If it doesn't make sense to hate a grizzly bear, then it follows that it also doesn't make sense to hate any human. We are merely the universe playing itself out. It's all just a movie, and our scripts are written for us. Of course you would interpret my comment there as me graduating from racist to now hating all humans because I compared us to another animal (by ripping off Sam Harris). Understanding that we lack free will actually helps people show more compassion towards people like the poor souls sitting there in prison because of their biology and environment. Understanding about a lack of free will can turn people against the death penalty, and make them more likely to want more livable conditions for prisoners. Seeing people as grizzly bears is actually a great thing and should make you more compassionate. Not the other way around.

No, it isn't a good way of seeing people. It's totally dehumanizing even if hard determinism is true (which it's not)

Ok. Insurrectionists is fine. The media is still blowing it a hundred times out of proportion though. One cop died. The sky is falling. Boo hoo. It sucked and was a bad day, but the media's job is to blow it a hundred times out of proportion to manufacture consent to give the white supremacist police and surveillance states the powers they've always wanted.

There is a mix of randomness thrown in there with what decisions our brains make, so not completely deterministic, but if you have any actual evidence for free will, I'd be glad to hear it. I've never found this evidence before, and I've looked for it for many hours and watched many debates on the subject. No one ever presented any real evidence to the contrary.

We are animals. Deal with it. Our brains all follow the laws of the universe we're living, human and animal alike. There isn't something extra special or magical in our brains called free will.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Ok. Insurrectionists is fine. The media is still blowing it a hundred times out of proportion though. One cop died. The sky is falling. Boo hoo. It sucked and was a bad day, but the media's job is to blow it a hundred times out of proportion to manufacture consent to give the white supremacist police and surveillance states the powers they've always wanted.

It wasn't blown out of proportion. They were a group of dangerous lunatics that tried to overthrow democracy based on lies widely believed by the current right. Your attempts to downplay the magnitude of this is absurd.

There is a mix of randomness thrown in there with what decisions our brains make, so not completely deterministic, but if you have any actual evidence for free will, I'd be glad to hear it. I've never found this evidence before, and I've looked for it for many hours and watched many debates on the subject. No one ever presented any real evidence to the contrary.

Without some free will, nothing makes sense in fact it's self-defeating to say some form of free will doesn't exist.

We are animals. Deal with it. Our brains all follow the laws of the universe we're living, human and animal alike. There isn't something extra special or magical in our brains called free will.

Yup were animals with free will and the fact our brains use laws doesn't undermine that nor is freewill mgical and attempts to deny it is doomed to self defeat.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Ok. Insurrectionists is fine. The media is still blowing it a hundred times out of proportion though. One cop died. The sky is falling. Boo hoo. It sucked and was a bad day, but the media's job is to blow it a hundred times out of proportion to manufacture consent to give the white supremacist police and surveillance states the powers they've always wanted.

It wasn't blown out of proportion. They were a group of dangerous lunatics that tried to overthrow democracy based on lies widely believed by the current right. Your attempts to downplay the magnitude of this is absurd.

There is a mix of randomness thrown in there with what decisions our brains make, so not completely deterministic, but if you have any actual evidence for free will, I'd be glad to hear it. I've never found this evidence before, and I've looked for it for many hours and watched many debates on the subject. No one ever presented any real evidence to the contrary.

Without some free will, nothing makes sense in fact it's self-defeating to say some form of free will doesn't exist.

We are animals. Deal with it. Our brains all follow the laws of the universe we're living, human and animal alike. There isn't something extra special or magical in our brains called free will.

Yup were animals with free will and the fact our brains use laws doesn't undermine that nor is freewill mgical and attempts to deny it is doomed to self defeat.

Nope. It's not absurd. The Trumpers got a little anger off of their chests, didn't fire a shot, and left the building voluntarily shortly afterward. No coup attempt. That is retarded. No laws should be changed because one cop died. That's retarded. And Trump should not have been impeached for it. That was retarded.

You're claiming free will but you refuse to give any evidence like I asked for. Will is all that exists. It is not free. We can not do otherwise. All we can do is what we do. There is no ability to change that. Show me your evidence.

[The Grand Nudger]

Left voluntarily...lol. They were given rare amnesty and fled - why, just the other day another traitor was added to the list of shame and charged with..among other things, attempting to burn evidence of her complicity in the jack legged coup.

Seems like she knew what she had done, even if you don't.

[arewethereyet]

Start with the overwhelming issue of trans women going after the large number of children in spas.

****watch more conspiracy theory YouTube videos

Add having big ole scary Mike Tyson being in prison and claiming to be a woman and is then moved to a woman's prison...he's 50X stronger than a woman.

***watch more conspiracy theory YouTube videos

Argue about lung capacities in trans athletes and the unfairness of it all.

***watch more conspiracy theory YouTube videos.

Throw in some insurrection denial.

Wonder why people don't take you seriously and think you are nothing but a shit-stirring troll.

***Back to YouTube to find more nonsense, wash, rinse, repeat.

Wonder why you have no credibilty.

[Irreligious Atheist]

I did not defend what the Trumpers did on January 6. It was a shitty thing to do. My point was that no laws should have been changed because of the death of one cop. Trump was exercising his free speech. He said be peaceful. Pelosi did the impeachment as a virtue signal, and they knew it would mean nothing as Trump was already leaving office. Pelosi could have used that prescious time they wasted on the sham virtue signalling impeachment to get people stimulus cheques earlier.

[Mermaid]

I did not defend what the Trumpers did on January 6. It was a shitty thing to do. My point was that no laws should have been changed because of the death of one cop. Trump was exercising his free speech. He said be peaceful. Pelosi did the impeachment as a virtue signal, and they knew it would mean nothing as Trump was already leaving office. Pelosi could have used that prescious time they wasted on the sham virtue signalling impeachment to get people stimulus cheques earlier.

TRUMP was the FUCKING PRESIDENT. 

You're gross.

[Rev. Rye]

1) Trump mentioned being peaceful once, and used words like “fight” 20 times. Lest you think “but this could also mean non-violent struggle a la MLK or Gandhi,” Rudy Giuliani also had a speech before Trump where he referred to “trial by combat.” This sounds like priming them for violence at the very least, likely inciting it, and that’s one of the very few exceptions America has to the first amendment.

2) They didn’t fire a shot, but they did repeatedly call for the blood of Mike Pence and try to build a functional gallows, and even destroyed an AP cameraman’s camera equipment so they could use the cables to make another noose. And say what you will about groups like BLM or Antifa, Even at their worst, I’ve never seen any of them openly planning a lynching.

3) They left voluntarily? Strange because I have actually seen video of several incidents where rioters claimed they were acting on the authority of Trump himself. And they only left when Trump left a tweet telling them to leave.

4) Trump shouldn’t have been impeached for it? He attempted to incite a riot that would violently overturn the results of an election where he lost, fair and square. If that’s not grounds for impeachment, what is? And while he was going to leave office anyway, there was one other reason they did it: they wanted to disqualify Trump from trying to take office in 2024. And, having followed the proceedings, and seeing how little Trump’s team defended itself, it’s clear that the only reason it failed is because the Republican Party only gives a shit about Trump and themselves holding power. And, even that had a silver lining, because some Republican senators actually crossed party lines and voted to convict. Not enough for the supermajority required, but more than literally any other prior Presidential Impeachment.