Posts: 1571
Threads: 179
Joined: October 14, 2010
Reputation:
35
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 17, 2011 at 11:16 am
(November 17, 2011 at 3:03 am)Epimethean Wrote: Stat is a scientist-a christian scientist. That is as far as his understanding of biology, taxonomy, and natural history goes. If it ain't in his silly old book, it ain't real: Which, of course, sets him up for a real Cartesian wallop.
I disputed that long ago, like his claim to be a government scientist, yet he was posting on "guvment" time. The man is a talking head, nothing more.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
Posts: 67223
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 17, 2011 at 11:21 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2011 at 11:21 am by The Grand Nudger.)
LOL, his legendary employment status as appeal to authority gambit? Yeah, I call massive bullshit as well.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 1473
Threads: 20
Joined: November 12, 2011
Reputation:
26
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 17, 2011 at 11:50 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2011 at 11:58 am by Norfolk And Chance.)
(November 16, 2011 at 10:29 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I believe dinosaurs existed yes. The point was to show atheists how absurd and downright annoying many of the games they play are by playing the same game back concerning the existence of dinosaurs.
You have no point, because you were denying obvious evidence to support dinosaurs.
Relentlessly claiming "but where is the proof?" every time somebody showed you a skeleton, was NOT the same as what atheists do to theists (unless you actually think we deny OBVIOUS PROOF of god - is that what you think?), it was just an exercise in absurdness.
It was a stupid and crap game, and you got beaten.
Quote:When I was in high school I worked in a pharmacy, and two of the pharmacy techs got into this very same squabble. It was one of the most hilarious things I had ever seen, because you really can’t “prove” dinosaurs existed, and the one tech was very good at pushing that point.
But you can prove dinosaurs existed. 
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
Posts: 29
Threads: 3
Joined: August 19, 2011
Reputation:
0
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 17, 2011 at 12:38 pm
(November 17, 2011 at 11:50 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: You have no point, because you were denying obvious evidence to support dinosaurs.
Relentlessly claiming "but where is the proof?" every time somebody showed you a skeleton, was NOT the same as what atheists do to theists (unless you actually think we deny OBVIOUS PROOF of god - is that what you think?), it was just an exercise in absurdness.
It was a stupid and crap game, and you got beaten.
What I saw re-reading the entire thread for some sense:
SummerQueen: Here is an hilariously badly done paper on dinosaurs
denialism.
SW: You are not skeptical the same way with god than with dinosaurs.
All: Well there is proof for dinosaurs
SW: NO
All: there are fossils
SW: NO
All: there are research published
SW: NO
All: There are museums
SW: NO
All: There is science
SW: NO
All: there is what teachers have told you
SW: NO
All: there is what you can learn in unversity
SW: NO
and so forth... Anyone can replace the rest of the dialogue with a one
simple Unix command:
yes "no"
I'm a bit disappointed myself. I was expecting demonstrations, an argument besides an systematic denial of everything. It's a bit of a tease with nothing in the end.
Posts: 4234
Threads: 42
Joined: June 7, 2011
Reputation:
33
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 18, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Oh, you'll get used to that with the xtians here.
Trying to update my sig ...
Posts: 69247
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
259
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 18, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Quote:I'm a bit disappointed myself. I was expecting demonstrations,
That's about all you ever get from fundies. Nothing is real but their hallucinations.
They are all pretty well fucked up by having this jesus shit crammed into them for too long.
Posts: 1994
Threads: 161
Joined: August 17, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 19, 2011 at 2:34 am
(November 18, 2011 at 9:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I'm a bit disappointed myself. I was expecting demonstrations,
That's about all you ever get from fundies. Nothing is real but their hallucinations.
They are all pretty well fucked up by having this jesus shit crammed into them for too long.
Damn right
Might I also add that Christian apologetics in general comprises of this kind of thinking
![[Image: break-the-cycle.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=coasm.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F06%2Fbreak-the-cycle.jpg)
undefined
Posts: 12586
Threads: 397
Joined: September 17, 2010
Reputation:
96
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 19, 2011 at 1:14 pm
No, Stat. It was actually pointing out that you were in fact the one making special pleading.
But I must thank you for this thread, because when I was sick of it some nights ago the telling of it allowed me to make my favorite Skeptic and your dear fellow Christian Ryft laugh rich and full, and there's nothing I like better than seeing my boys laugh.
I leave it in your capable hands, my loves. Your queen is about to turn in for the winter.
Posts: 70
Threads: 3
Joined: November 9, 2011
Reputation:
7
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 19, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Good night, my Queen
Love 'n' hugz,
Lord Chad
4th Earl of Catsuit
There is nothing more dangerous than a man who knows he is right.
Posts: 4234
Threads: 42
Joined: June 7, 2011
Reputation:
33
RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
November 19, 2011 at 2:13 pm
So summer hibernates until spring.
Trying to update my sig ...
|
![[Image: Untitled2_zpswaosccbr.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1140.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn569%2Fthesummerqueen%2FUntitled2_zpswaosccbr.png)
