[Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II

[Angrboda]

This from the moron who had to be convinced that plasma is a state of matter, suddenly he's an expert on black holes and the theory of relativity?

The only place where time has stopped is in the moral progression of those stuck within the Islamic death cult.

No, time stops at black holes too.

No, it does not.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Rules out a black hole, then, huh.  Back to the drawing board I suppose.  I'm sure you'll come up with something equally silly next time, you never disappoint.

Next thread title;  Quranic proof that the escaltaor to heaven can be reached via the trunk of a brown 1977 Oldsmobile cutlass

You fucking schismatics are the reason we can’t have nice things. Mohammed - peas be upon him! - clearly teaches us that it’s a TAN 1977 Cutlass.

Boru

[WinterHold]

Great remark, but sadly not close.

Is this all that you do? Disregard anything that disagrees with your mythconceptions? You've failed to understand black holes or the Quran, conflated those failures, and birthed their flailing, failing, bastard offspring.

What part of "Black holes do not magically stop time" did you not understand? It only appears to stop for an external observer. For the luckless bugger pitched into a black hole the clock keeps ticking and they die a very bad and very thorough death.

Actually, the Quran did say that people will be "resurrected from death first in an earth that looks different than ours", so their built may differ totally -according to my view-:

If being rendered down into fundamental particles and energy is your idea of an afterlife then you can keep it.

Nobody talked about "magic"; I talked about a scientific proof from Harvard stating that:

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/seuforum/bh_whatare.htm

At the very center of the black hole is where our understanding breaks down. Einstein's theory of gravity seems to predict that time itself is destroyed at the center of the hole: time comes to an abrupt end there. For this reason, a black hole is sometimes described as the "reverse of creation." But no one knows how or why time could come to an abrupt end, any more than we know how time was created in the first place. Einstein's theory of gravity no longer applies at these tiniest scales of distance, and new laws of nature must be found that describe what happens at the center of a black hole.

Black holes destroy time at their centre; according to Einstein's theory of gravity.

God said in the Quran describing hell:

Sura 32, The Quran:
https://quran.com/32:20?store=false&translations=

(20) But as for those who are rebellious, the Fire will be their home. Whenever they try to escape from it, they will be forced back into it, and will be told, “Taste the Fire’s torment, which you used to deny.”

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Is this all that you do? Disregard anything that disagrees with your mythconceptions? You've failed to understand black holes or the Quran, conflated those failures, and birthed their flailing, failing, bastard offspring.

What part of "Black holes do not magically stop time" did you not understand? It only appears to stop for an external observer. For the luckless bugger pitched into a black hole the clock keeps ticking and they die a very bad and very thorough death.


If being rendered down into fundamental particles and energy is your idea of an afterlife then you can keep it.

Nobody talked about "magic"; I talked about a scientific proof from Harvard stating that:

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/seuforum/bh_whatare.htm

At the very center of the black hole is where our understanding breaks down. Einstein's theory of gravity seems to predict that time itself is destroyed at the center of the hole: time comes to an abrupt end there. For this reason, a black hole is sometimes described as the "reverse of creation." But no one knows how or why time could come to an abrupt end, any more than we know how time was created in the first place. Einstein's theory of gravity no longer applies at these tiniest scales of distance, and new laws of nature must be found that describe what happens at the center of a black hole.

Black holes destroy time at their centre; according to Einstein's theory of gravity.

(Bold mine)

You appear to have missed the bit that says we actually don’t know (yet) what happens to time at the centre of a black hole.

I would suggest that, before you post things like this, you actually read past the bit that you think supports your position.

Boru

[no one]

I think that last brain cell of yours would appreciate if you cut down on the lead paint chips.

This has been a PSA intended for the blue faced forum participant.

[Paleophyte]

Nobody talked about "magic"; I talked about a scientific proof from Harvard stating that:

https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/seuforum/bh_whatare.htm

That's a defunct website, not a proof.

And talk about cherry picking your information and a total lack of reading comprehension:

At the very center of the black hole is where our understanding breaks down. Einstein's theory of gravity seems to predict that time itself is destroyed at the center of the hole: time comes to an abrupt end there. For this reason, a black hole is sometimes described as the "reverse of creation." But no one knows how or why time could come to an abrupt end, any more than we know how time was created in the first place. Einstein's theory of gravity no longer applies at these tiniest scales of distance, and new laws of nature must be found that describe what happens at the center of a black hole.

Learn to read and stop posting quotes that disprove your point. We know that Einstein's theories don't work at very small scales. That's why they keep predicting singularities. Those are physics' divide by zero errors.

[Ranjr]

This is your brain on religion.

[R00tKiT]

Diving in the Quran more; I have found more evidence indicating that "hell" is actually a "black hole".
Next, are the verses that made me consider this evidence pretty seriously:

1- Hell is a place where inmate "neither live" nor "die":

Sura 35, The Quran:

https://quran.com/35:36?store=false&translations=


As for the disbelievers, they will have the Fire of Hell, where they will not be ˹allowed to be˺ finished by death, nor will its torment be lightened for them. This is how We reward every ˹stubborn˺ disbeliever.

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

I am afraid you're taking these beautiful rhetorical devices too literally. Hell inmates not being able to live means that the conditions are too unbearable to allow any form of enjoyment, as if they weren't alive.

The Qur'an repeatedly states that there is no death in the afterlife.

 theory I have have is that hell is the black hole at the centre of our galaxy.

Well, some verses of the Qur'an strongly challenge your theory :

It has seven gates, to each a group of them is designated.” (15:44)

Hell has seven gates. It's simply unreasonable to say a black hole may somewhat contain seven gates inside it. A black hole is simply a point in spacetime where gravity is very strong. There is nothiing more to it to justify any theological speculation.

The Qur'an stresses upon the belief in the unseen: 

who believe in the unseen,1 establish prayer, and donate from what We have provided for them (2:3)

The unseen may mean, in modern terms, any realm that is inaccessible to our senses, and whose existence was only revealed to us through prophets, that's it. The existence of hell is simply revealed to us in scripture.

[Anomalocaris]

It is so cute to argue over which part of total bullshit is wrong according to which part of some other bullshit.