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[Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
(December 9, 2021 at 6:54 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: 10 bucks says this nutbar bows to the first alien spaceship that lands on earth.  He's a not a muslim, thats just the culture he was raised in, lol.

We left worshipping aliens to the CIA.
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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
:drinks a shot:
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
(December 9, 2021 at 7:15 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 9, 2021 at 6:29 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Since time stops for someone inside a black hold, then their thought processes will stop as well. Since there’s no passage of time, then nothing could be experienced. A person inside a black hole (accepting for the moment that they could somehow not be reduced to their constituent particles) would not experience suffering. They would be in a state of oblivion.

But it’s adorable that you’re trying so hard.

Boru

The Quran states that the thinking process of hell's inmates will quite intact:


Quote:Sura 43, The Quran:
https://quran.com/43:77?font=v1&translations=131%2C20

(74) Indeed, the criminals abide in the punishment of Hell

(75) which is never palliated for them, and in it they are devastated.

(76) Yet in no way did We do them injustice, but it was they who were the unjust.

(77) And they criedf, “O Malek1, let your Lord finish us off.” He said, “You are staying.

— Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ translation


"Malik" is the keeper of hell; an angel. So inmates will be able to think, cry, feel and ever recognise names.

Like Nudger just said, that means hell can’t be a black hole. In order to experience pain (or anything else), time would have to pass.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
Black hole = posts by Winter
  
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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
Everytime you think "this cant get anymore absurd" Winter creates another "Quranic reflection" thread.  Hehe
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
It's an interesting thing he has going, constantly looking for things outside of magic book to prove his religious beliefs. Guess the quran just isn't good enough.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
Winter is so stupid and blinded by religious zeal and confirmation bias that he does not know/ignores the difference between a black hole and the event horizon of a black hole.
But i am sure he will come up with a rationalisation for this too.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
(December 9, 2021 at 5:08 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 8, 2021 at 8:14 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: From the PoV of the luckless bugger falling into the black hole time proceeds as normal. As you approach the black hole the gravity pulling on your feet will be greater than that pulling on your head. Eventually this difference becomes so great that you will be pulled apart at an atomic level in what astrophysicists call "spaghettification". Yes, that's the technical term. If there was any doubt, you will be very, very dead. Though the enormous amounts of radiation will likely kill you first.

Congratulations on disproving the Quran. Clap

And how do you figure you got to a black hole in the first place? Think

Great remark, but sadly not close.

Is this all that you do? Disregard anything that disagrees with your mythconceptions? You've failed to understand black holes or the Quran, conflated those failures, and birthed their flailing, failing, bastard offspring.

What part of "Black holes do not magically stop time" did you not understand? It only appears to stop for an external observer. For the luckless bugger pitched into a black hole the clock keeps ticking and they die a very bad and very thorough death.

Quote:Actually, the Quran did say that people will be "resurrected from death first in an earth that looks different than ours", so their built may differ totally -according to my view-:

If being rendered down into fundamental particles and energy is your idea of an afterlife then you can keep it.



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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II




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RE: [Quranic reflection]: hell is a black hole-part II
(December 9, 2021 at 7:16 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Rules out a black hole, then, huh.  Back to the drawing board I suppose.  I'm sure you'll come up with something equally silly next time, you never disappoint.

Next thread title;  Quranic proof that the escaltaor to heaven can be reached via the trunk of a brown 1977 Oldsmobile cutlass
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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