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RE: Devil's Advocate
November 25, 2011 at 2:45 pm
(November 25, 2011 at 6:56 am)LastPoet Wrote: I could play the theist, altough I couldn't keep a straight face while doing it 
I did not elaborate properly on the voting. Atheists wanting to play Devil's Advocate should select Atheist and vice versa.
Basically, I believe this is empirically showing, so far, the inability of the on-board theists to question or reason their beliefs.
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RE: Devil's Advocate
November 25, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Maybe I'll play just for a little while. 
It's much easier to argue as an atheist than a theist because atheists don't have to prove any of that God stuff. 
There was another thread like this - Reverse 'ism' game - but no one even replied there (lol).
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RE: Devil's Advocate
November 25, 2011 at 3:29 pm
LOL, well, theism is a rough one to argue. I've been mulling it over since the OP, still don't have anything. I could probably come up with a wishy washy argument for deism or animism. Theism though, meh, defending the indefensible.
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RE: Devil's Advocate
November 25, 2011 at 4:37 pm
I'm not certain how well I'll do, but I'll give it a legitimate try
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RE: Devil's Advocate
November 25, 2011 at 4:49 pm
(November 25, 2011 at 3:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: LOL, well, theism is a rough one to argue. I've been mulling it over since the OP, still don't have anything. I could probably come up with a wishy washy argument for deism or animism. Theism though, meh, defending the indefensible.
Deism in many ways is worse than theism. It attracts new age hippy types. All they talk about is vibrations and shit like that.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: Devil's Advocate
November 25, 2011 at 4:59 pm
(This post was last modified: November 25, 2011 at 5:01 pm by Ace Otana.)
(November 25, 2011 at 3:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: LOL, well, theism is a rough one to argue. I've been mulling it over since the OP, still don't have anything. I could probably come up with a wishy washy argument for deism or animism. Theism though, meh, defending the indefensible.
Indeed.
I've been trying to think of a way to argue for theism, I can't really build a successful argument for it. Most are based on ignorance and fallacies. Also most contradict each other.
As Rayaan said, it's easier to argue as an atheist. We have nothing to prove, nothing to assert, nothing to defend. I quite simply lack belief.
To try and argue successfully for something that most likely don't even exist is really fucking tricky!
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Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Devil's Advocate
November 25, 2011 at 6:32 pm
I am still working on my initial argument. I agree with everyone here as to the difficultly, but let us see what happens.
I set the poll up for 10 days. Maybe we can get at least one more, hopefully two more theists, to help back Rayaan.
I intend to take a 'creationist' viewpoint. 
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God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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