Why NATO doesn't give to Ukraine plan of membership?

[Interaktive]

Why NATO doesn't give to Ukraine plan of membership?
Ukrainians proofed, that they are West

[HappySkeptic]

NATO didn't want to give Ukraine membership right away because they believed it would be a bridge too far for Russia. They were right. It was appeasement.

[The Grand Nudger]

The ukranians have proven no such thing, and doing so wouldn't get them into NATO at any rate.

Let's ignore that the official reasons given for slow walking ukraine are spin. Let's just tackle them for what they are..because even though they'd been used to cover appeasement as HappySkeptic notes above, they're till things that are supposed to be central to NATO inclusion. A commitment to democracy, individual liberty, and the rule of law. Unless these things are exclusively western, and doing them makes you western by default, then proving yourself to be western isn't the issue....and if this is, actually, what that means, that these things are exclusively western and doing them makes you western....how does zipping around blowing up russian armor and slaughtering russian infantry satisfy any of that?

Or is that what it means to be western, and prove you're western? To curbstomp russia? Man that'd be humiliating for russia.

[Interaktive]

not convinced. I think Biden and Scholz can turn us on if they want to. As it was with the association of the European Union

[arewethereyet]

not convinced. I think Biden and Scholz can turn us on if they want to. As it was with the association of the European Union

I shudder to think about being turned on by Biden...I mean I like the guy just fine, but ewwwww.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

not convinced. I think Biden and Scholz can turn us on if they want to. As it was with the association of the European Union

Hello.

Okay I gather that English may not be your first language.

For the benefit of such a doubt do you want help trying to get your above point explained/expanded upon?

Cheers.

[Interaktive]

At work.

not convinced. I think Biden and Scholz can turn us on if they want to. As it was with the association of the European Union

Hello.

Okay I gather that English may not be your first language.

For the benefit of such a doubt do you want help trying to get your above point explained/expanded upon?

Cheers.

no need to explain. Americans are just as dependent on TV as Ukrainians. Just to a lesser extent

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Actually, NATO have given Ukraine a ‘plan of membership’ - Zelenskyy knows precisely what his country needs to do to qualify for membership in the alliance.

Boru

[abaris]

Actually, NATO have given Ukraine a ‘plan of membership’ - Zelenskyy knows precisely what his country needs to do to qualify for membership in the alliance.

Boru

Actually, the whole idea of Ukraine becoming a NATO member has been brought up by Bush in his last year in office. Probably under the impression of the war in Georgia at that time. Germany and France instantly protested the idea and there are little indications, their position might have changed in the meantime.

In any case, as long as war is raging there, there's absolutely no hope of Ukraine joining. It's in the treaties, that no country involved in a war may join the alliance. Same as with EU membership. Von der Leyen may have talked about a fast track, but there is no provision for a fast track. Either you fullfil the EU requirements chapter by chapter or you stay out. And Ukraine is very far removed from fullfilling the requirements.

[Jehanne]

It appears to me that the majority of the population in Eastern Ukraine wants to be part of Russia, or at least under Russian control.