Debunking Creationism #1 - How Human Evolution Works

[Ranjr]

God's declamations come across as weak explanations for where he was last night.  

"I know you won't believe this, but baby, I'm telling the truth. . . "

How she knows you're lying.

[Anomalocaris]

If you and your wife both carry a recessive gene that when manifested in your offspring prevent them from reproducing, then you and your wife are not of a kind?

What are of a kind with asexually reproducing “seeds”?

What about a ring specie?

*emphasis mine*

I don't think pointing to an abnormality is the own you think it is...

of course not.  if you are capable of thinking intellectual rigor actually means something then you would have ditched your sad devotion to your religion long ago.

but as it were, asexual reproduction is not an abnormality in the real world, it only seems that way to people whose understanding of the real world hasn’t progress much beyond the level of biblical goat herders. 

In fact vast majority of life on earth as measured by species, and very likely by biomass, reproduce asexually.    so your biblical “kind” is the abnormality, not the other way around.

[The Architect Of Fate]

*emphasis mine*

I don't think pointing to an abnormality is the own you think it is...

of course not.  if you are capable of thinking intellectual rigor actually means something then you would have ditched your sad devotion to your religion long ago.

but as it were, asexual reproduction is not an abnormality in the real world, it only seems that way to people whose understanding of the real world hasn’t progress much beyond the level of biblical goat herders. 

In fact vast majority of life on earth as measured by species, and very likely by biomass, reproduce asexually.    so your biblical “kind” is the abnormality, not the other way around.

That's not even the start of the issues the concept of "kinds " has when we get into higher Taxa it becomes downright ridiculous.

[Huggy Bear]

*emphasis mine*

I don't think pointing to an abnormality is the own you think it is...

of course not.  if you are capable of thinking intellectual rigor actually means something then you would have ditched your sad devotion to your religion long ago.

but as it were, asexual reproduction is not an abnormality in the real world, it only seems that way to people whose understanding of the real world hasn’t progress much beyond the level of biblical goat herders. 

In fact vast majority of life on earth as measured by species, and very likely by biomass, reproduce asexually.    so your biblical “kind” is the abnormality, not the other way around.

I guess we forgot about the whole asexual conception and birth of Jesus? The point is, mixing seed from different species cannot produce fertile offspring. Bringing up Asexual reproduction is irrelevant to that fact.

[Jehanne]

of course not.  if you are capable of thinking intellectual rigor actually means something then you would have ditched your sad devotion to your religion long ago.

but as it were, asexual reproduction is not an abnormality in the real world, it only seems that way to people whose understanding of the real world hasn’t progress much beyond the level of biblical goat herders. 

In fact vast majority of life on earth as measured by species, and very likely by biomass, reproduce asexually.    so your biblical “kind” is the abnormality, not the other way around.

I guess we forgot about the whole asexual conception and birth of Jesus? The point is, mixing seed from different species cannot produce fertile offspring. Bringing up Asexual reproduction is irrelevant to that fact.

The so-called Virgin Birth is a later development which we can talk about in another thread. As I said, speciation is about not having sex. And, so, let's say that a small group of individuals of a species get separated, a founder population, that ends up on an island far from the main land mass where the others live. The two populations, the main one and the founder, will no longer intebreed. Since the founder population is smaller, it will have more genetic variations, and after some time, if the two populations would ever meet up again, they will no longer be able to produce viable offspring; they will have become two separate species. Get it?

[h4ym4n]

of course not.  if you are capable of thinking intellectual rigor actually means something then you would have ditched your sad devotion to your religion long ago.

but as it were, asexual reproduction is not an abnormality in the real world, it only seems that way to people whose understanding of the real world hasn’t progress much beyond the level of biblical goat herders. 

In fact vast majority of life on earth as measured by species, and very likely by biomass, reproduce asexually.    so your biblical “kind” is the abnormality, not the other way around.

I guess we forgot about the whole asexual conception and birth of Jesus? The point is, mixing seed from different species cannot produce fertile offspring. Bringing up Asexual reproduction is irrelevant to that fact.

Is your god and Mary of the same “kind”?

[Anomalocaris]

of course not.  if you are capable of thinking intellectual rigor actually means something then you would have ditched your sad devotion to your religion long ago.

but as it were, asexual reproduction is not an abnormality in the real world, it only seems that way to people whose understanding of the real world hasn’t progress much beyond the level of biblical goat herders. 

In fact vast majority of life on earth as measured by species, and very likely by biomass, reproduce asexually.    so your biblical “kind” is the abnormality, not the other way around.

I guess we forgot about the whole asexual conception and birth of Jesus? The point is, mixing seed from different species cannot produce fertile offspring. Bringing up Asexual reproduction is irrelevant to that fact.

Really?   Mary and god didn’t need each other to make Jesus?     

So kind does not have the “same definition” as specie?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Funny how we went from a discussion about real things like Taxonomy something Creationism totally fails at accounting for. To nonsense about human women giving birth asexually.

[The Grand Nudger]

It isn't necessarily because linnaean taxonomy is real™ that creationist kinds don't fit it's taxa. It's because creationist kinds are soup sandwich.