Stupid things religious people say

[Fake Messiah]

Oh, I have found a new religious intellectual to guide me through life

We’ve had a huge shift in attitude [in society], with many believing it is fine to have sex with whomever they want, and in any way they want. [which is a bad thing]


Now, in the minds of many, sex is merely a bodily function, a thing you do for pleasure. You can pursue this on your own, with another or with many others. The trends we’re seeing are very destructive.


There has been a cultural shift in our society, a decline in the belief that Judeo-Christian values are its foundation and a shared set of beliefs. Society has now largely been shaped by values emerging from the Sexual Revolution, the media and the entertainment industry. This shift in the cultural environment is in radical opposition to human flourishing and the good of the family.


The Sexual Revolution and the Pill have combined to create the impression that sex no longer has something to do with reproduction, or that sex should only be enjoyed within marriage.

- Mary Rice Hasson, Catholic attorney

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/mary-ric...hen-family

[Rev. Rye]

So, evidently, recreational sex wasn't a thing until 1960?

[Fake Messiah]

The woman is obviously completely bonkers. With phrases like "people are having sex with whom they want [chhose]."

It's obvious that according to the Church people should only have sex with their rapists after they are forced to have their child and marry them.

But she is just saying what the Church brainwashed her to say.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So, evidently, recreational sex wasn't a thing until 1960?

To bad even the bible disagrees with her

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Oh, I have found a new religious intellectual to guide me through life

We’ve had a huge shift in attitude [in society], with many believing it is fine to have sex with whomever they want, and in any way they want. [which is a bad thing]


Now, in the minds of many, sex is merely a bodily function, a thing you do for pleasure. You can pursue this on your own, with another or with many others. The trends we’re seeing are very destructive.


There has been a cultural shift in our society, a decline in the belief that Judeo-Christian values are its foundation and a shared set of beliefs. Society has now largely been shaped by values emerging from the Sexual Revolution, the media and the entertainment industry. This shift in the cultural environment is in radical opposition to human flourishing and the good of the family.


The Sexual Revolution and the Pill have combined to create the impression that sex no longer has something to do with reproduction, or that sex should only be enjoyed within marriage.

 - Mary Rice Hasson, Catholic attorney

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/mary-ric...hen-family

This woman needs a jolly good seeing-to.

Boru

[Angrboda]

Oh, I have found a new religious intellectual to guide me through life

This woman needs a jolly good seeing-to.

Boru

Roger that.

[The Grand Nudger]

Besides, your argument is ridiculous. claiming he isn't taking responsibility, while at the same time he's blaming the West (US and Canada specifically) is a little wonky wouldn't you say? Unless of course you believe that he is a Russian and an apologist.

The degenerate west, his mortal enemy, lol.  You have a point, though, everything about him is just a bit off.

[tackattack]

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1. He said Russian apologist, not a Putin supporter 

2. No the west supporting Ukraine did not fan the flames of war. War the house was already burning 

3. Those" correlations with his usual crudites of cultural war" play into his Russian apologetics 

4. Criticizing the west is not taking responsibility

5. Criticizing the Communist manifesto ( modern Russian isn't Communist and Putin sure as hell isn't a Communist) is not a refutation

These are terrible counters.

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You very clearly countered your own number one with number three. To my original point you made a clear distinction from him Jordan Peterson) and his Russian apologetics. If you looked at the original context for the bait clip  "We are all pretending here in the west.." most clearly answers your number 4. For number 5 it was just one example of how his body of work has been historically, anti-communist, anti-marxist, etc... and in this particular video (which is the only relevant one) specifically anti-Putin. For number 2, do you believe Putin specifically warned the US to not support Ukraine? I hope so, it's pretty relevant and apparent. How could flagrantly and publicly doing that very thing not, at the very least, increase tensions... regardless of the state of the war at that time? Isn't that the definition of fanning the flames?

@Rev. Rye  My initial refutation Rev, was that he's Canadian, not Russian. It was a simple grammatical half poke. Then I refuted his alleged Russian apologetics, because in the video he condemned Putin specifically and the focus was on how the West (him included) could be making things worse instead of better by provoking a dictator.



For the sake of putting the damn nail in this coffin, Sure let's assume for arguments sake his apologetics are pro Russia. It still does not make him a Russian apologist it makes him a Canadian apologist for Russia or an Apologist for Russia.

[Fake Messiah]

If you looked at the original context for the bait clip  "We are all pretending here in the west.." most clearly answers your number 4. For number 5 it was just one example of how his body of work has been historically, anti-communist, anti-marxist, etc... and in this particular video (which is the only relevant one) specifically anti-Putin.

Anti-Putin? If you look at the whole video you will see that Peterson begins the vid by saying that Putin’s actions are “unconscionable” but then he goes on to say that his invasion of Ukraine was an (arguably? probably?) righteous crusade against western degeneracy and that they are justified in doing so.

To explain why Russia is attacking Ukraine, he goes on a long diatribe about Ketanji Brown Jackson. He complains about Biden looking for a black woman and that she wouldn't answer the question "what is a woman." In fact, wanting to nominate a woman while denying women exist "violates the principle of noncontradiction" proving that we have become logically and societally degenerate.

He thinks that therefore, we don't have the moral high ground against russia, because we are degenerate. And he says the Russians think they have a duty to fight off this degeneracy, and they're right!

https://youtu.be/JxdHm2dmvKE

[The Architect Of Fate]

Sigh so much fail 

You very clearly countered your own number one with number three. 

Nope 1 does not counter 3 slightest lol 

To my original point you made a clear distinction from him Jordan Peterson) and his Russian apologetics. If you looked at the original context for the bait clip  "We are all pretending here in the west.." it most clearly answers your number 4. 

Nothing in that quote counters 4 

For number 5 it was just one example of how his body of work has been historically, anti-communist, anti-marxist, etc... and in this particular video (which is the only relevant one) specifically anti-Putin. 

Being anti-communist is not the same as being Anti Putin and his criticism of Putin is two-faced at best.

For number 2, do you believe Putin specifically warned the US to not support Ukraine? I hope so, it's pretty relevant and apparent. How could flagrantly and publicly doing that very thing not, at the very least, increase tensions... regardless of the state of the war at that time? Isn't that the definition of fanning the flames?

Nope, it wouldn't have mattered in the slightest what the west did Putin ALWAYS intended to reconquer Ukraine he's literally said Ukraine shouldn't be its own country and should be part of Russia.


Congrats you totally failed at countering my points