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Star Trek films
#21
RE: Star Trek films
(November 19, 2022 at 7:31 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I have never watched a Star Trek movie and don't plan on it.

The cardboard sets on the TV show, back in the day, were enough for me, thanks.

Stick with Telenovelas
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#22
RE: Star Trek films
1. The Undiscovered Country (By far the best Trek movie... hands down. Valks is correct here.)
2. The Voyage Home
3. Wrath of Khan
4. First Contact
5. Insurrection
6. Nemesis (it kinda sucks, but has redeeming qualities)

That's my top 6. As for the others... they don't deserve a place on a "best Trek movies" list. (Why?)

The Search for Spock (dumb)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (long, drawn out, pointless, and boring)
The Final Frontier (dumb)
Generations (the captains escape the nexus by getting on their horses and deciding to "leap back to reality" on their horses-- so weak... also dumb)
Star Trek (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Into Darkness (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Beyond (not Star Trek)
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#23
RE: Star Trek films
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Your top four are my real top four in regard to enjoyment on first watch. I let Kahn rise higher because I want to like it more than I did.
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#24
RE: Star Trek films
(November 26, 2022 at 12:29 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: 1. The Undiscovered Country (By far the best Trek movie... hands down. Valks is correct here.)
2. The Voyage Home
3. Wrath of Khan
4. First Contact
5. Insurrection
6. Nemesis (it kinda sucks, but has redeeming qualities)

That's my top 6. As for the others... they don't deserve a place on a "best Trek movies" list. (Why?)

The Search for Spock (dumb)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (long, drawn out, pointless, and boring)
The Final Frontier (dumb)
Generations (the captains escape the nexus by getting on their horses and deciding to "leap back to reality" on their horses-- so weak... also dumb)
Star Trek (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Into Darkness  (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Beyond  (not Star Trek)

Oh, hey, nice to see you.

Hope you've been well.
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#25
RE: Star Trek films
(November 26, 2022 at 12:29 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: 1. The Undiscovered Country (By far the best Trek movie... hands down. Valks is correct here.)
2. The Voyage Home
3. Wrath of Khan
4. First Contact
5. Insurrection
6. Nemesis (it kinda sucks, but has redeeming qualities)

That's my top 6. As for the others... they don't deserve a place on a "best Trek movies" list. (Why?)

The Search for Spock (dumb)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (long, drawn out, pointless, and boring)
The Final Frontier (dumb)
Generations (the captains escape the nexus by getting on their horses and deciding to "leap back to reality" on their horses-- so weak... also dumb)
Star Trek (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Into Darkness  (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Beyond  (not Star Trek)
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#26
RE: Star Trek films
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#27
RE: Star Trek films
My favourite is definitely The Voyage Home, or as Boru put it, 'the one with the whales'. The other films all just kind blend into each other for me such that I can't really say how many I've seen or distinguish them much from regular episodes. The Voyage Home stands out for me for the whole interaction with modern(ish) day Earth, like when Spock's on a bus and deals with an annoying passenger with his stereo on too loud, etc. There's just a lot of cool little moments like that in this film, I can't put my finger on why they're so appealing, but they are quite rare, generally, in films.
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#28
RE: Star Trek films
(November 26, 2022 at 10:42 pm)emjay Wrote: My favourite is definitely The Voyage Home, or as Boru put it, 'the one with the whales'.

I guess the fun trivia is that it was released on November 26, 1986. Which is today/ yesterday, but 36 years ago.
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#29
RE: Star Trek films
(November 26, 2022 at 12:29 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: 1. The Undiscovered Country (By far the best Trek movie... hands down. Valks is correct here.)
2. The Voyage Home
3. Wrath of Khan
4. First Contact
5. Insurrection
6. Nemesis (it kinda sucks, but has redeeming qualities)

That's my top 6. As for the others... they don't deserve a place on a "best Trek movies" list. (Why?)

The Search for Spock (dumb)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (long, drawn out, pointless, and boring)
The Final Frontier (dumb)
Generations (the captains escape the nexus by getting on their horses and deciding to "leap back to reality" on their horses-- so weak... also dumb)
Star Trek (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Into Darkness  (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Beyond  (not Star Trek)
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#30
RE: Star Trek films
(November 26, 2022 at 12:29 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: 1. The Undiscovered Country (By far the best Trek movie... hands down. Valks is correct here.)
2. The Voyage Home
3. Wrath of Khan
4. First Contact
5. Insurrection
6. Nemesis (it kinda sucks, but has redeeming qualities)

That's my top 6. As for the others... they don't deserve a place on a "best Trek movies" list. (Why?)

The Search for Spock (dumb)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (long, drawn out, pointless, and boring)
The Final Frontier (dumb)
Generations (the captains escape the nexus by getting on their horses and deciding to "leap back to reality" on their horses-- so weak... also dumb)
Star Trek (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Into Darkness  (not Star Trek)
Star Trek Beyond  (not Star Trek)

Why would you put the worst of the (genuine) Star Trek films in your top six? Nemesis is Wrath of Khan without any of the understanding of the franchise, panache, attention to detail, good writing, competent directing, buyin from the actors, cinematography or anything else that made Wrath of Khan head and shoulders above every other movie in the franchise.

I'll tell you a story about Nemesis, they were due to have a big ass space dog-fight at the end, Romulan navy versus Federation navy, but they didn't have the budget in the end. They'd spent way too much money on stuff that was superfluous to the plot that in the end, they had to jettison their set-piece climax to the plot for Brent Spiner doing a Superman impression and a pensioner beating up a ship composed of "the greatest fighters in the galaxy" while only picking up one superficial wound.

The only good thing about Nemesis is that it didn't kill Tom Hardy's career.
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