It's time

[The End of Atheism]

If you do so then theists will conspire to breed even faster. Not clear which team would win in the end.

Seems that even if no babies happen it could be a fun competition.

This can no longer be called breeding, I guess lol.

[The Architect Of Fate]

If you say so ?

Yes, I do says. Because it is so...Fool 

I'm going to pretend I didn't read that. Something beneficial can't also be pointless, you don't need more than one brain cell to realize that.

You can pretend whatever you like Fool.  Once having had an evolutionary benefit does not make it not pointless now. You apparently have half a brain cell to not see that ....Fool 

This just means that other systems are also beneficial, that's not a defeater. 

Actually, it is a defeater because there is nothing the religion really contributed it was simply a redundancy and thus pointless. Just like I said ...Fool 



Any other foolishness you wish to throw out there....Fool 

[Angrboda]

The Euthyphro of Fucking. Are people who believe religious bollocks likely to fuck more, or are people who fuck more likely to believe religious bollocks?

Seems you've got a chicken and egg problem.

It doesn't matter as your assertion is false. Fucking correlates with economic conditions, not religiosity; it's just a curious accident that religion is popular among poor people in many places.

[emjay]

From my POV, the main thing it teaches is the wrong attribution of responsibility, both in the sense of theists not giving themselves enough credit for their own achievements, ie 'god give me strength'... well maybe that strength was in you all along, and you alone are responsible for your achievements...and likewise, 'god please help me'... someone intervenes of their own free will to help and the next thing it's 'thank you god for helping me', what about the person who helped?. Basically misattribution of responsibility either way IMO, and in such a way that true self-esteem is never fostered not just because of this lack of responsibility, but also because of the supposedly inherent sinful nature.

I really don't know about that, any run of the mill religious person knows how to say thank you to someone who helped. It may upset some people that they don't get enough credit for what they do, but this can be seen in a negative way : why do they even need credit ? They should do good unconditionally, whether they get credit or not.

But sure, in real life we really do need approval, it just seems that religious people are capable of providing that, too.

I'm talking about this mainly from the theist's perspective. Ie the theist attributing responsibility for all good that happens to their god's intervention in one way or another, whether in their own mind, in the sense of inspiration etc, or in the behaviour of others again through god's inspiration eg the notion of god working through others. And at the same time attributing all bad to either their weakness or the influence of yet another external force, the devil. How can this sort of attitude ever foster any true responsibility or sense of self-esteem?

[The Architect Of Fate]

I really don't know about that, any run of the mill religious person knows how to say thank you to someone who helped. It may upset some people that they don't get enough credit for what they do, but this can be seen in a negative way : why do they even need credit ? They should do good unconditionally, whether they get credit or not.

But sure, in real life we really do need approval, it just seems that religious people are capable of providing that, too.

I'm talking about this mainly from the theist's perspective. Ie the theist attributing responsibility for all good that happens to their god's intervention in one way or another, whether in their own mind, in the sense of inspiration etc, or in the behaviour of others again through god's inspiration eg the notion of god working through others. And at the same time attributing all bad to either their weakness or the influence of yet another external force, the devil. How can this sort of attitude ever foster any true responsibility or sense of self-esteem?

Indeed thanking a god for good things seems pointless.

[The Grand Nudger]

From my POV, the main thing it teaches is the wrong attribution of responsibility, both in the sense of theists not giving themselves enough credit for their own achievements, ie 'god give me strength'... well maybe that strength was in you all along, and you alone are responsible for your achievements...and likewise, 'god please help me'... someone intervenes of their own free will to help and the next thing it's 'thank you god for helping me', what about the person who helped?. Basically misattribution of responsibility either way IMO, and in such a way that true self-esteem is never fostered not just because of this lack of responsibility, but also because of the supposedly inherent sinful nature.

I really don't know about that, any run of the mill religious person knows how to say thank you to someone who helped. It may upset some people that they don't get enough credit for what they do, but this can be seen in a negative way : why do they even need credit ? They should do good unconditionally, whether they get credit or not.

But sure, in real life we really do need approval, it just seems that religious people are capable of providing that, too.

Decent people like that.  Always on hand to assure you that tossing that queer off the roof was the right thing to do.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"Set thy own house aright before asking thy neighbor to clean up his act."

[A. Secular Human]

Don't make a fool of yourself. Major religions encourage procreation so that they have more followers. This is not rocket science

So if we encourage atheists to breed more we could get rid of this nonsense of gods and hells and all that other stuff?  

Maybe we should start a movement.

You'll have to convince my wife that it's OK for me to join a "movement" where we all engage in trying to procreate.

I think I'll pray on it...