Daily conspiracy

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL, no..senators have confirmed no such thing..and the government has been crystal clear that they don't have a fucking spaceship parked in the garage.

Virus in nature? ludicrous.  Alien spaceships? you betcha.

Entirely irrelevant what any government reports say or official government position is, unless it's something that you would think they wouldn't want us to know. Then my ears perk up. Otherwise, governments lying and covering things up is par for the course.

Indeed, like..lying about ufos and natural phenomena to cover up the majority of reported sightings which were actually u2s and sr71s.....after having commissioned a report and sequestered massive funds to "investigate". Sound familiar?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The grand thing about conspiracy theories is that they’re effectively immune to disproof.

‘Aliens are among us.’

‘Where’s your evidence?’

‘The government is hiding it.’

‘Then how do you know your theory is right?’

‘If it wasn’t, the government wouldn’t be hiding the evidence.’

‘But x, y, and z argue against your position.’

‘Those arguments are government propaganda.’

‘How do you know?’

‘If we were wrong, the government wouldn’t need propaganda.’

Boru

[Deesse23]

Bolding mine

Are there any such programs? You you know about any programs? Or is it that you dont know?

I don't know the nuclear codes. That doesn't mean that they aren't identified, to someone.

Oh, wow  

I never disputed that there maybe are aliens. I was trying to lead you to realize that you have NO GOOD REASON TO BELIEVE they exist.
You dont get to claim "Well, i dont know if there are some Aliens, but that does not mean they dont exist...somehwere". Thats true for f.ing EVERYTHING.

I dont know about Aliens, you dont know about Aliens, you dont know someone who knows about Aliens*. End of Story. Why are you unable to leave it at that. There is no more conclusion to draw than: WE.DONT.FUCKING.KNOW

*at best you know people who CLAIM to know about ALiens

[Irreligious Atheist]

I don't know the nuclear codes. That doesn't mean that they aren't identified, to someone.

Oh, wow  

I never disputed that there maybe are aliens. I was trying to lead you to realize that you have NO GOOD REASON TO BELIEVE they exist.
You dont get to claim "Well, i dont know if there are some Aliens, but that does not mean they dont exist...somehwere". Thats true for f.ing EVERYTHING.

I dont know about Aliens, you dont know about Aliens, you dont know someone who knows about Aliens*. End of Story. Why are you unable to leave it at that. There is no more conclusion to draw than: WE.DONT.FUCKING.KNOW

*at best you know people who CLAIM to know about ALiens

I never claimed to know. You guys are the ones pretending that there is a basically zero percent chance these top intelligence officials could be telling the truth. I think it's unlikely they are telling the full story or the truth, but I am open to that possibility, even if it is low, and if any evidence does exist like they claim, I'd sure as hell like to see it. Do you imagine Grusch and all of the others will get in trouble for lying under oath, or no?

[Deesse23]

Oh, wow  

I never disputed that there maybe are aliens. I was trying to lead you to realize that you have NO GOOD REASON TO BELIEVE they exist.
You dont get to claim "Well, i dont know if there are some Aliens, but that does not mean they dont exist...somehwere". Thats true for f.ing EVERYTHING.

I dont know about Aliens, you dont know about Aliens, you dont know someone who knows about Aliens*. End of Story. Why are you unable to leave it at that. There is no more conclusion to draw than: WE.DONT.FUCKING.KNOW

*at best you know people who CLAIM to know about ALiens

I never claimed to know. You guys are the ones pretending that there is a basically zero percent chance these top intelligence officials could be telling the truth.

You claim they are telling the truth, you do your homework and bring evidence.

I think it's unlikely they are telling the full story or the truth

And i think you are pulling this likelihood our of your bottom

, but I am open to that possibility, even if it is low, and if any evidence does exist like they claim, I'd sure as hell like to see it.

Me too, but i am not incessantly yammering as soon as yet another *whatver* enters the stage and claims he has the holy grail of UFOs.

T;L
I am not hysteric like you are.

[Fake Messiah]

So anything can be true as long as you claim that the US government is hiding the evidence.

[The Architect Of Fate]

It's not stupid at all. There's no reason things in space acting strangely like Oumuamua and things in the oceans should be left out of the category of UAP, so they are now being included. NASA is studying UAP and taking it seriously. It all makes perfect sense and you are just complaining for no reason.

No, it's stupid and redundant and NASA's embrace of something stupid and redundant does not make it less so. Also, I'm not complaining I'm simply pointing that out.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So anything can be true as long as you claim that the US government is hiding the evidence.

Don't you know the lack of evidence only means it's a cover-up?

[Fake Messiah]

So my guess is that IR is heading to Roswell this weekend.

[Irreligious Atheist]

I never claimed to know. You guys are the ones pretending that there is a basically zero percent chance these top intelligence officials could be telling the truth.

You claim they are telling the truth, you do your homework and bring evidence.

I think it's unlikely they are telling the full story or the truth

And i think you are pulling this likelihood our of your bottom

, but I am open to that possibility, even if it is low, and if any evidence does exist like they claim, I'd sure as hell like to see it.

Me too, but i am not incessantly yammering as soon as yet another *whatver* enters the stage and claims he has the holy grail of UFOs.

T;L
I am not hysteric like you are.

You say I'm hysteric... So is your problem me bringing up the subject, period? A Gang of 8 member claims crash retrieval first hand employees who are top intelligence officials have been coming out to them the last few years with consistent stories, and you want me to ignore that massive claim of a story and instead you think all of our time would have been more productively spent by instead spending those few pages of forum thread talking about how chicks drink their own period blood or something like that, because that's such an exciting and oh so important topic, isn't it? Even if this is all just a psyop, that's still a huge story that we should care about, because then the question must be asked. For what purpose is the psyop being pulled off?

I never claimed the whistleblowers are telling the truth, no. I posted about them supposedly giving evidence to the Inspector General, who then deemed them credible and their claims urgent after speaking with many others under oath who backed up Grusch's claims. Him being deemed credible does not entail that he is telling the truth, no. But if he was just a guy having a troll and making some stuff up to try to get famous and get a role on the tv show Ancient Aliens, that probably would have been uncovered pretty quickly by the IG who talked to all those people under oath. People like Eric Weinstein and Sam Harris are being contacted and taking the UAP subject seriously after they've been told by people who would supposedly be in the know that the dam is about to break and some mindblowing shit is happening behind the scenes. Why were they contacted and told this? I'd like to know. Weinstein has since been briefed on UAPs by Elizondo, and Weinstein says the information he's gotten has been very helpful, but obviously Weinstein said he's not going to be sharing that info with the public.

I love how people say bring evidence before you can even start contemplating a topic. Forum posters told me that about lab leak. They said why does it even matter? Why are you asking this question? And now we see that patients zero came from lab workers in a lab leak. People asked me why I was even talking about the Hunter Biden story and said there was zero evidence Biden knew of his sons business dealings, and so on, so sure of themselves because of a supposed 'lack of evidence', but now we have texts from Hunter saying you better call me back tonight, I'm sitting here with my father. Jeff Epstein. Should we wait for the full evidence to come in before we start theorizing what happened to him? Did Trump flood his own pool? Any one pool in America is more likely to be flooded by accident than by malice, so therefore it's a left wing conspiracy theory with zero evidence to say Trump flooded his own pool. Why are people talking about the pool without evidence? Where are you standards now? When Jared Kushner was given billions by the Saudis, did anyone of us truly need to see direct evidence to know that that was shady as hell?

Now, if you were simply stating that you need to see evidence before you can accept the whistleblowers claims as true, then I have said nothing different from that and we could all agree on that point. You just seem to have an issue with me bringing up the subject of UAP at all, because you seem to see the subject as the same as Gods or fairies, which are not exactly fair comparisons. The concept of Gods are a squared circle and almost certainly don't exist. UAPs or aliens are not supernatural ideas, so people can continue to pretend that I'm basically speaking like a Christian when I write about UAP, but that's a false comparison.