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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
June 30, 2023 at 2:29 pm
Quote:I didn't say that gun control is the reason why there was an increase in gun deaths in the UK. Helios claimed that gun control worked in the UK to decrease gun deaths. The fact that there hasn't been a decrease of gun crimes in the UK proves that wrong.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 1, 2023 at 10:15 am
And what do you guys think about the shooting in Trogir? Is it reasonable to believe that the shooter is a retired policeman? Policemen have higher morality than most people, so perhaps it is not reasonable to believe a retired police officer is a shooter.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 1, 2023 at 11:43 am
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(July 1, 2023 at 10:15 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: And what do you guys think about the shooting in Trogir? Is it reasonable to believe that the shooter is a retired policeman? Policemen have higher morality than most people, so perhaps it is not reasonable to believe a retired police officer is a shooter.
Firstly, police are neither more nor less moral than any one else (some police officers reach absolutely breathtaking levels of corruption). Second, and more importantly, Mamic has several prior arrests for domestic violence, which is almost universally acknowledged as an indicator of further violent acts.
So, yeah, I think he’s the shooter.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 1, 2023 at 1:15 pm
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Is being a cop dangerous where you are? Not so much here. They’re mostly a danger to other people.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 1, 2023 at 3:11 pm
(July 1, 2023 at 1:15 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Is being a cop dangerous where you are? Not so much here. They’re mostly a danger to other people.
And they don’t seem to get any less dangerous when they retire. It may be a bit of a stretch, but one might almost say that people seek out careers in law enforcement because they’re predisposed to violence.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 1, 2023 at 6:38 pm
(July 1, 2023 at 3:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 1, 2023 at 1:15 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Is being a cop dangerous where you are? Not so much here. They’re mostly a danger to other people.
And they don’t seem to get any less dangerous when they retire. It may be a bit of a stretch, but one might almost say that people seek out careers in law enforcement because they’re predisposed to violence.
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So, why aren't you an anarchist? You know, one who thinks we should not rely on the police to protect us, but that we should get a gun to protect ourselves?
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 1, 2023 at 7:51 pm
(July 1, 2023 at 6:38 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: (July 1, 2023 at 3:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And they don’t seem to get any less dangerous when they retire. It may be a bit of a stretch, but one might almost say that people seek out careers in law enforcement because they’re predisposed to violence.
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So, why aren't you an anarchist? You know, one who thinks we should not rely on the police to protect us, but that we should get a gun to protect ourselves?
It’s exactly because policing attracts people prone to violence that - ideally - would make them especially well-suited to maintain public order. I’m not an anarchist because anarchy is an inherently flawed, self-defeating system (we’ve been over this before).
I have to question why you are an anarchistic, since you seem to think that coppers are paragons of moral virtue, with the probity and good sense to keep the rest of us safe from harm.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 1, 2023 at 11:45 pm
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If you want to protect yourself, buy a lock. Guns aren't for protecting, they're for hurting. Obviously things may be different where you are. Do you find that everyone is armed and you can't walk a block to the cornerstore without your glock?
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 2, 2023 at 3:15 am
(July 1, 2023 at 11:45 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If you want to protect yourself, buy a lock. Guns aren't for protecting, they're for hurting. Obviously things may be different where you are. Do you find that everyone is armed and you can't walk a block to the cornerstore without your glock?
B...b...but Kleck.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 2, 2023 at 7:41 am
(July 1, 2023 at 7:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 1, 2023 at 6:38 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: So, why aren't you an anarchist? You know, one who thinks we should not rely on the police to protect us, but that we should get a gun to protect ourselves?
It’s exactly because policing attracts people prone to violence that - ideally - would make them especially well-suited to maintain public order. I’m not an anarchist because anarchy is an inherently flawed, self-defeating system (we’ve been over this before).
I have to question why you are an anarchistic, since you seem to think that coppers are paragons of moral virtue, with the probity and good sense to keep the rest of us safe from harm.
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I used to be an anarchist. But I have realized that the world is complicated and that, for some problems, government is the only realistic solution. Now I think government should be our last resort for problems such as the antibiotic resistance (caused primarily by the massive use of antibiotics in the egg industry), but that it should still be there.
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