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The Pentagon denies Grusch's claims in the clearest language yet.

Quote:The U.S. is concealing a longstanding program that retrieves and reverse engineers unidentified flying objects, a former Air Force intelligence officer testified Wednesday to Congress. The Pentagon has denied his claims.

The Pentagon has denied Grusch’s claims of a coverup. In a statement, Defense Department spokeswoman Sue Gough said investigators have not discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.” The statement did not address UFOs that are not suspected of being extraterrestrial objects.

At that point, “we have not seen anything, and we’re still very early on, that would lead us to believe that any of the objects that we have seen are of alien origin,” said Ronald Moultrie, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and security. “Any unauthorized system in our airspace we deem as a threat to safety.”

https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-con...d906a69ba7
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(July 26, 2023 at 2:35 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: The Pentagon denies Grusch's claims in the clearest language yet.

Quote:The U.S. is concealing a longstanding program that retrieves and reverse engineers unidentified flying objects, a former Air Force intelligence officer testified Wednesday to Congress. The Pentagon has denied his claims.

The Pentagon has denied Grusch’s claims of a coverup. In a statement, Defense Department spokeswoman Sue Gough said investigators have not discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.” The statement did not address UFOs that are not suspected of being extraterrestrial objects.

At that point, “we have not seen anything, and we’re still very early on, that would lead us to believe that any of the objects that we have seen are of alien origin,” said Ronald Moultrie, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and security. “Any unauthorized system in our airspace we deem as a threat to safety.”

https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-con...d906a69ba7

Grusch is blowing the whistle on the Pentagon. He's not just claiming aliens, he's claiming that the Pentagon diverted taxpayer funds to this black ops program without disclosing to Congress. That is highly illegal. So it ain't much of a surprise that they would deny what he's saying. To concur with him would be putting every senior DoD official's head on a chopping block.

Believing the Pentagon in this case would be akin to believing whatever the NSA said to defend itself after Snowden's leak.
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Sure, believing that there are no alien invaders is exactly the same thing as believing that the us gov doesn't harvest a single ounce of the data we can't give away for free fast enough.

Few snags in that idea, but it's basically legit.

It's definitely rescued from any perceived impropriety or inaccuracy by suggesting that the gov lies about shit.....but never...never, mind you, about earthly shit, excepting every other time the government has used "ufo disclosure" as a place to hide weapons programs and shield appropriated funds, for that end, from public scrutiny, ofc. It all just makes sense.

If the us government has -any- pictures..of -anything- they don't want you to see, you can bet they're in a bundle with shit they very much want you to see, right now. Publiclicly available. Right out in the open. It works. It's always worked. It's never not worked. Not because they're conspiratorial masterminds - but because we're stupid.
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A behind the scenes photo taken before the UFO hearing shows witnesses and UFO celebrities gathering. Jeremy Corbell, Leslie Kean, and George Knapp - all promoters of UFO/alien mythology. Only one missing is QAnon Shaman.

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(July 26, 2023 at 2:35 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: The Pentagon denies Grusch's claims in the clearest language yet.

Quote:The U.S. is concealing a longstanding program that retrieves and reverse engineers unidentified flying objects, a former Air Force intelligence officer testified Wednesday to Congress. The Pentagon has denied his claims.

The Pentagon has denied Grusch’s claims of a coverup. In a statement, Defense Department spokeswoman Sue Gough said investigators have not discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.” The statement did not address UFOs that are not suspected of being extraterrestrial objects.

At that point, “we have not seen anything, and we’re still very early on, that would lead us to believe that any of the objects that we have seen are of alien origin,” said Ronald Moultrie, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and security. “Any unauthorized system in our airspace we deem as a threat to safety.”

https://apnews.com/article/ufos-uaps-con...d906a69ba7

If Grusch has the information to make such a claim, he ought to be able to tell us where the secret UFO wreckage is.
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It's in our iphones. Keep up.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(July 29, 2023 at 1:28 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(July 26, 2023 at 2:35 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: The Pentagon denies Grusch's claims in the clearest language yet.

If Grusch has the information to make such a claim, he ought to be able to tell us where the secret UFO wreckage is.

Lol yep, and then they'd throw him in Gitmo.

He can only testify publicly on what is not currently classified information. He said point blank to lawmakers last week that he has exact locations and satellite photos of them. The OIG is sitting on them in the case that he sits down with lawmakers in a SCIF setting where he can relay such information. The entire point of the hearing was to tell Congress that there is some shady shit happening over on the executive branch, and they need to declassify files before they can continue their investigation... hence the bipartisan UAP language released by Senator Schumer's office a few weeks ago to declassify those files.

For all the skeptics who don't seem to care unless we literally see photos of aliens...sure, it would be nice for him to pull a full Snowden and then flee to Russia, but that's not what is happening. He is taking a legal route and using his position to point Congress in the right direction - rather than blowing it all up by leaking classified intel. A smarter route IMO.
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The UFO nuts have the ear of Congress, and they are going to make the best of it. Pentagon coverups, alien wreckage, blah blah blah. Anything to get their few minutes of fame.

The GOP wants to depict all government agencies as corrupt Democratic stooges, so the idea that they are hiding things from the Republican people plays right to their agenda.
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(July 31, 2023 at 2:19 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: The UFO nuts have the ear of Congress, and they are going to make the best of it.  Pentagon coverups, alien wreckage, blah blah blah.  Anything to get their few minutes of fame.

The GOP wants to depict all government agencies as corrupt Democratic stooges, so the idea that they are hiding things from the Republican people plays right to their agenda.

UAPs is a bipartisan issue. Schumer himself introduced an amendment to the defense bill to include declassification of UAP files.

Also, the Pentagon absolutely is abusing their powers and misappropriating taxpayer money. Even if it's not to study aliens. Do you really think it's a conservative conspiracy theory to say that maybe the DoD is just the tiniest bit corrupt? With everything we know about the military-industrial complex?

I won't comment on this any further because I wasted enough time on the other forum.
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Corruption in government? Must be a day that ends in Y.
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