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What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
(July 31, 2023 at 4:01 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(July 30, 2023 at 9:59 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: USN?

Nah, I'm talking about REAL sailors, not boys in their dress whites drinking shandies and pink umbrella drinks.

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What distinguishes REAL sailors?   Rum, lash and sodomy?

Nope. Spinach and an anorexic girlfriend.

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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
(July 30, 2023 at 11:48 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:As for Abolition and Slavery, Prez. Lincoln 
Lincoln freed the slaves but he didn't give them full equality and his desire for racial integration was dubious 



Quote:William Wilberforce
An imperialist who supported the British Empire and it's underlining racist themes of "civilizing the world"



Quote:for e.g. as well as Anti-Slavery Crusader David Livingstone, were the Accomplished Abolitionists of their time, and they were devout Christians.
Yeah the guy who opened Africa to colonialism which lead to all the horrors that came from that 


These are your heroes? Also, Christianity doesn't get credit for fixing a problem it helped cause.

You're a thankless shithead to all the heros of the past who made incredibly difficult incremental progress towards the recognition of human rights that now, in retrospect, seem obvious. But they definitly were not obvious back then.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
Quote:You're a thankless shithead to all the heroes of the past who made incredibly difficult incremental progress towards the recognition of human rights that now, in retrospect, seem obvious But they definitly were not obvious back then.

First off I don't owe long-dead politicians thanks and it's irrelevant as my point stands if he can condemn other historical figures for their faults I can condemn his heroes for theirs if he wants to play that game he needs to understand it's a two-way street. Also, screw you, you pompous windbag.
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They're no more obvious now than they were then. A commitment to human rights is fulfilled and must be renewed in every moment. Having one half-kind thought in a lifetime means absolutely nothing to human rights. There is no incremental progress in human rights. You either have rights, as a human, or you don't - and that's the end of it. Check your nearest mass grave for confirmation.
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Which makes it IYM a convenient fiction does it not? And not just which human rights in general, what specifically are we talking about...the right to life perhaps?...self-defence?....justice?...peace?....

Dat What goes on that list is not simple or obvious is tru dat.
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(July 31, 2023 at 8:55 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(July 30, 2023 at 11:48 pm)Helios Wrote: Lincoln freed the slaves but he didn't give them full equality and his desire for racial integration was dubious 



An imperialist who supported the British Empire and it's underlining racist themes of "civilizing the world"



Yeah the guy who opened Africa to colonialism which lead to all the horrors that came from that 


These are your heroes? Also, Christianity doesn't get credit for fixing a problem it helped cause.

You're a thankless shithead to all the heros of the past who made incredibly difficult incremental progress towards the recognition of human rights that now, in retrospect, seem obvious. But they definitly were not obvious back then.
Mad  I really hate it when I agree with you.  But, here we are.
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You are all completely missing my point. Which was if  NX can Condemn other historical figures for holding views that were unenlightened I can do the same for the people he cites as heroes.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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Then you are both thankless shitheads. Dope.
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Quote:Then you are both thankless shitheads. Dope.
Lol yes because we can't ever criticize historical figures  Hehe

Oh and neither of us owes a dead person thanks.

And you are the only dope here dope
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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(July 31, 2023 at 9:25 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: They're no more obvious now than they were then.  A commitment to human rights is fulfilled and must be renewed in every moment.  Having one half-kind thought in a lifetime means absolutely nothing to human rights.  There is no incremental progress in human rights.  You either have rights, as a human, or you don't - and that's the end of it.  Check your nearest mass grave for confirmation.
True  Great
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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