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[The Grand Nudger]

UAP wasn't actually bipartisan. The point was to make adam schiff look like a bug eyed freak while disposing of marco rubio since the gops rightward lurch. That and giving the pentagon more taxpayer funds to misappropriate.

But no, no, the real conspiracy is Not That. It's fucking alien spaceships.

[no one]

The aliens are already here.

If you rearrange the letters in REPUBLICAN
You get:
ALIEN CUB PC

This is stage 1 of the invasion, the are waiting for the bears to arrive and daddy up.

[Aegon]

UAP wasn't actually bipartisan.  The point was to make adam schiff look like a bug eyed freak while disposing of marco rubio since the gops rightward lurch.  That and giving the pentagon more taxpayer funds to misappropriate.

But no, no, the real conspiracy is Not That.  It's fucking alien spaceships.

Adam Schiff is literally not even a part of this conversation.

Also what do you mean "wasn't actually bipartisan"? It objectively is. Look at the co-sponsors of the UAP amendments to the defense bill. Look at how AOC reacted during this past hearing.

Disposing of Rubio? By making him vice chair of the select Intelligence Committee? lmao.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yet another reason you might want to consider the conspiracy staring you in the face - rather than the conspiracy theory about alien spaceships. How did it go from a deeply partisan prank to a bipartisan nothingburger?

[Aegon]

Yet another reason you might want to consider the conspiracy staring you in the face - rather than the conspiracy theory about alien spaceships.  How did it go from a deeply partisan prank to a bipartisan nothingburger?

It... didn't? I don't think you know as much about this topic as you think you do.

[The Grand Nudger]

Idk, we have two versions of reality here. One you could very easily watch unfold yourself in news articles and interviews and sound bites and bills….and the other one has recovered alien spaceships in it.

I get that the alien spaceship conspiracy reality is sexier than the conspiracy to avoid governing, avoid oversight, appropriate funds, and trade meaningless votes.

[Aegon]

Idk, we have two versions of reality here.  One you could very easily watch unfold yourself in news articles and interviews and sound bites and bills….and the other one has recovered alien spaceships in it.

I get that the alien spaceship conspiracy reality is sexier than the conspiracy to avoid governing, avoid oversight, appropriate funds, and trade meaningless votes.

...what? Lol. Aliens aside, Congress is exercising oversight by investigating the Pentagon's black ops projects... and now they're about to shift the focus to private contractors in a way we haven't seen much since we started letting the Pentagon do whatever they wanted in 2001. This is the first serious bipartisan pushback on the military-industrial complex in forever. Ukraine spending is getting a bit of pushback but that's all GOP.

What about this translates to a lack of oversight to you? Did you watch any of the hearing? Have you read any of the UAP amendment in the DAA?

I think you spent a grand total of 5 minutes reading about this before commenting and it's obvious.

[The Grand Nudger]

I'm sure we've already had this conversation, wherein every single congressional program...ever, to investigate ufos ended up being used by the us government to bury disclosure about us and allied tech. The many reports of sr protoypes, for example, we're officially discounted as weather and other anomalies. They officially called the people who saw sr protoypes crazy and or ignorant - while leaving actual weather and anomalies up as "unidentified" to further muddy the pool.

Hope springs eternal, though, so the next one is always the big one, and it's gonna be different this time. Let's test that theory. Let's assume this is real oversight. Well, they've already said that nothing has been held back from them and they've seen no evidence of any ufos at all, let alone recovered alien tech. So that's the final word. Right? All done, no need for another?

[Aegon]

I'm sure we've already had this conversation, wherein every single congressional program...ever, to investigate ufos ended up being used by the us government to bury disclosure about us and allied tech.  The many reports of sr protoypes, for example, we're officially discounted as weather and other anomalies.  They officially called the people who saw sr protoypes crazy and or ignorant - while leaving actual weather and anomalies up as "unidentified" to further muddy the pool.

Hope springs eternal, though, so the next one is always the big one, and it's gonna be different this time.  Let's test that theory.  Let's assume this is real oversight.  Well, they've already said that nothing has been held back from them and they've seen no evidence of any ufos at all, let alone recovered alien tech.  So that's the final word.  Right?  All done, no need for another?

You are right on the first bit. There was actually a poor civilian named Paul Bennewitz, who was witness to one of our early black ops projects, and he was manipulated by the intelligence apparatus into thinking it was alien technology so nobody would believe him. In fact, they were so convincing that he went insane after nobody believed him and later killed himself. One of the disinformation agents, Richard Doty, admitted on camera to manipulating multiple military pilots and civilians (including Bennewitz) into believing the black ops projects they saw were alien. You are absolutely correct that this same phenomena could be happening, and the whistleblowers have been lied to. This is a possibility.

However, in the case of Bennewitz, the intelligence apparatus was united. What we're seeing now are factions within the Pentagon at war with itself. Remember, the only reason any of this is happening is because there were people at the Pentagon who decided that the leaked "Nimitz" video should be verified; at first, they denied it outright and claimed it was fake. Additionally, we are talking about advanced technology captured on FLIR in 2004. That's some time ago for something that is allegedly so advanced. 

So, regardless of whether this is alien technology or just insanely advanced technology made by the US, aggressive inquiries by the legislative branch will uncover it. It's just a matter of how much they really want to fight the Pentagon and all the private companies that profit off of death machines. Regarding any AARO statements (which is the new division that the Pentagon is making UAP statements from), I do want to point out that AARO does not actually have the correct clearance to review anything the whistleblowers are talking about. I assume that was intentional so that the Pentagon can claim ignorance. It's actually pretty funny. But folks who haven't read into this wouldn't know that, so folks like Messiah over there are like "hurr durr military complex said it didn't do anything wrong, I trust them!"

I will push back on your last statement though. Congress does not have everything Grusch has. Grusch explicitly stated to the subcommittee that he has exact information on location of non-human crafts and bodies along with satellite photos. They are currently with the Inspector General's office and can be shared with members of Congress if the Pentagon permits Grusch to hold a meeting with members of Congress in a SCIF. They are not letting him. That's why Grusch made it clear to the subcommittee that they need to take action on transparency first before anything serious can materialize. He also says he can provide a list of witnesses that can verify what he is saying, along with a list of hostile witnesses who are actively trying to stop him. Grusch also testified that people have been intimidated "in a disturbing way" and even seriously injured to keep this a secret... if they can provide direct evidence of that... well, shit. So there is plenty more to investigate, it's far from over.

One of my biggest pet peeves is being ridiculed. "Oh, any day now, huh you fuckin nutter?" I'm sorry, but this is legitimately exciting and at worst it may end up being that we uncover some seriously horrid corruption and misuse of taxpayer funds and send some Lockheed EVPs to prison. Best case, we get aliens. Win/win in my book.

Edit: I guess the worst case scenario is actually... nothing happens after this. Lmao.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

^Phony issues are there to distract you from the real issues. If they can get you focused on alien visitations, they hope you won’t notice all the hungry homeless people.

Boru