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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 3:11 am
Quote:Not supporting Ukraine is supporting American taxpayers
1. Ukraine has barely cost America anything
2. Helping Ukraine is helping America by preventing a nation hostile to the United States from gaining territory and strategic positioning.
3. The majority of Americans support helping Ukraine.
So your statement is BS. As Thump said if you are with Ukraine you are with Russia and against freedom.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 6:35 am
(October 10, 2023 at 12:48 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 11:10 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Not supporting Ukraine is supporting American taxpayers
Just the contrary. If the US doesn't help Ukraine now then it will have to help the whole of Europe when Putin attacks it after he conquers Ukraine which will be more expensive.
Putin isn't crazy. He wouldn't attack NATO members.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 6:53 am
(October 10, 2023 at 6:35 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Putin isn't crazy. He wouldn't attack NATO members.
Putin does seem crazy not just for attacking Ukraine but also for saying that Ukraine and Europe are ruled by Satan and that Europe is trying to turn Russians into homosexuals.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 7:57 am
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(October 9, 2023 at 11:10 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 1:18 pm)Fireball Wrote: Not supporting Ukraine is supporting Russia. No surprise that the GOP wants out of US support for Ukraine.
Not supporting Ukraine is supporting American taxpayers
I'm an American taxpayer, and I don't mind one bit helping Ukraine repel this invasion, barbarous as it is.
Are you even American?
I don't need or want anyone, especially you, trying to speak for me.
(October 10, 2023 at 6:35 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Putin isn't crazy. He wouldn't attack NATO members.
But he is stupid.
I'd love nothing more than seeing my old 7thBW knocking the dogshit out of his third-rate rent-a-soldiers.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 8:04 am
(October 10, 2023 at 6:53 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (October 10, 2023 at 6:35 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Putin isn't crazy. He wouldn't attack NATO members.
Putin does seem crazy not just for attacking Ukraine but also for saying that Ukraine and Europe are ruled by Satan and that Europe is trying to turn Russians into homosexuals.
How does that make him crazy? Most of the world believe that Europe is ungodly and pushes LGBT agenda.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 8:07 am
(October 10, 2023 at 7:57 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 11:10 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Not supporting Ukraine is supporting American taxpayers
I'm an American taxpayer, and I don't mind one bit helping Ukraine repel this invasion, barbarous as it is.
Are you even American?
I don't need or want anyone, especially you, trying to speak for me. Other American taxpayers may disagree with you. You are free to spend your money how you want. Why do you want others to fund spending they didn't consent to?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 8:09 am
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2023 at 8:13 am by The Grand Nudger.)
None of us consent to where our tax money goes. Not how it works in the us. Do russians get to choose which oligarch they fund? Anywho, it's not that americans are against funding ukraine. That's a popular thing. It tweaks our national myth. It's that Dear Leader Trump and the Treason Caucus are against it. They don't even love russia. Wouldn't piss on it if it was on fire. They could have helped russia in myriad ways which they simply haven't. The aim is to hurt people here in the us, lol. If I were an intelligent russian sympathizer....I'd want them to stay as far away from helping russia as possible. Everything they touch comes to a slow and humiliating end.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 8:13 am
(October 10, 2023 at 8:07 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Other American taxpayers may disagree with you. You are free to spend your money how you want. Why do you want others to fund spending they didn't consent to?
All Americans benefit from Russia's defeat.
Are you American?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 8:22 am
(October 10, 2023 at 8:04 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (October 10, 2023 at 6:53 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Putin does seem crazy not just for attacking Ukraine but also for saying that Ukraine and Europe are ruled by Satan and that Europe is trying to turn Russians into homosexuals.
How does that make him crazy? Most of the world believe that Europe is ungodly and pushes LGBT agenda.
You see that is fascism: picking on minorities and then accusing them of ridiculous conspiracies to create moral panic while promoting violence as the only solution for this nonexistent problem.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 10, 2023 at 9:20 am
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2023 at 9:21 am by Dmitry1983.)
(October 10, 2023 at 8:13 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 10, 2023 at 8:07 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Other American taxpayers may disagree with you. You are free to spend your money how you want. Why do you want others to fund spending they didn't consent to?
All Americans benefit from Russia's defeat.
This is a wild claim. Many Americans would rather not pay for an unnecessary war without obvious economic benefit.
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