Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?

[LinuxGal]

If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

Or critical thinking skills.

The critical thinking skills ship sailed when this fellow began using an atheist forum as a substitute for Stack Overflow.

[FlatAssembler]

Well... yes.

If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

"Entry-level" is the word you're looking for.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

But you need to be able to demonstrate a basic level of competence before you can get hired. This is why there are so few armless ditch diggers in the world.

Boru

[Ravenshire]

If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

When I left school, I already had basic competence in my chosen field.

Then again, I didn't cheat my way through, either.

[Jackalope]

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

But you need to be able to demonstrate a basic level of competence before you can get hired. This is why there are so few armless ditch diggers in the world.

Boru

This. The company I work for interviews many dozens of software engineers for each one it hires. Lacking experience? No problem for entry level work. Lacking basic competency won't make the cut.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

An apt metaphor for Flat's job search:





Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

Basic competence? You can learn to tie a bimini twist and bait hooks on the boat.

[FlatAssembler]

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

When I left school, I already had basic competence in my chosen field.

Then again, I didn't cheat my way through, either.

And, if you think that I cheated my way through the university, why do you think it took me 5 years to finish a 3-years degree? If I was cheating a lot, don't you think it would have taken me only 3 years?

[arewethereyet]

When I left school, I already had basic competence in my chosen field.

Then again, I didn't cheat my way through, either.

And, if you think that I cheated my way through the university, why do you think it took me 5 years to finish a 3-years degree? If I was cheating a lot, don't you think it would have taken me only 3 years?

Perhaps you aren't even good at cheating effectively.