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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 8, 2023 at 10:49 am
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(December 8, 2023 at 10:33 am)Ahriman Wrote: I'm suggesting a hypothetical scenario in which too many people get abortions (perhaps because it's too accepted) and this jeopardizes human survival.
The world's population hit 4 billion in 1974. It hit 8 billion in the last year.
I don't think we need to worry about low birthrates causing our extinction.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 8, 2023 at 11:20 am
(December 8, 2023 at 12:11 am)Ahriman Wrote: But if we have a right to life, which of course we do, then should anyone get aborted, really?
Bald assertion. Evidence that you have no evidence.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 8, 2023 at 11:05 pm
(December 7, 2023 at 9:23 am)h4ym4n Wrote: (December 7, 2023 at 9:21 am)Confused-by-christianity Wrote: So therein is something.
What happened to you that makes you think I am a threat ??? (I haven't actually attacked you or anyone here)
Thats a serious question ...
Do you support a woman’s right for an abortion?
Do you support gay marrage?
More importantly, do they vote?
Voting these issues along typical christer lines can do a lot of harm even though they claim to have never harmed anyone. but, as you've pointed out, this one lacks the courage of their convictions.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 8, 2023 at 11:13 pm
(December 7, 2023 at 12:02 pm)FrustratedFool Wrote: I do find it rude when people refuse to answer direct questions. That's another very common thing around here.
Yet you get offended when people give honest answers that you don't like.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 9, 2023 at 12:36 am
(December 7, 2023 at 12:02 pm)FrustratedFool Wrote: I do find it rude when people refuse to answer direct questions. That's another very common thing around here.
Sometimes I like to be edgy and respond without quoting the person.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 9, 2023 at 10:23 am
Hello arewethereyet,
How’s it going today. I hope you’ve been well. Where I am it is trying to be winter. We’ll see what El Niño does to us this year.
(December 4, 2023 at 8:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: BTW - you don't speak for Christians. You speak for you. I speak for everyone!! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!
But seriously, you are right. I do not speak for other individuals. Sometimes I barely speak for myself!
When I said “Christians have the mission to be evangelical. It’s called the Great Commission (Mt 28:16 – 20).” I was speaking of the tenets of Christianity, particularly of the Catholic Church. That this is a core tenet is clear. The interesting thing is how little people know of the tenets of the Church.
I agree that dragging others into your beliefs is not the way to do it. Rather the way is to explain and invite, then let the other person make the decision.
It’s also not good to not explain and invite. You say that the answers all seem self-serving to you. I’m surprised that you can’t think of non-self-serving reasons for wanting others to know and love God. I agree that you don’t think they are legit, but they are consistent in the Christian worldview.
(December 4, 2023 at 8:09 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: Me? I’m just here for a good discussion about interesting stuff. Unfortunately, that’s very hard on this forum.
(December 4, 2023 at 8:23 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: The only convert you might get here is the Confused one - thumbs up on that big accomplishment. This is why it’s very hard to have a good discussion. Good discussions require us to actually hear (well, I guess “read”) what the other person is saying. Hmm, maybe you meant “you” in that sentence to be the generic you, as in “only convert one might get.” If that’s true, then my bad.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 9, 2023 at 10:41 am
(December 9, 2023 at 10:23 am)SimpleCaveman Wrote: Hello arewethereyet,
How’s it going today. I hope you’ve been well. Where I am it is trying to be winter. We’ll see what El Niño does to us this year.
(December 4, 2023 at 8:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: BTW - you don't speak for Christians. You speak for you. I speak for everyone!! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!
But seriously, you are right. I do not speak for other individuals. Sometimes I barely speak for myself!
When I said “Christians have the mission to be evangelical. It’s called the Great Commission (Mt 28:16 – 20).” I was speaking of the tenets of Christianity, particularly of the Catholic Church. That this is a core tenet is clear. The interesting thing is how little people know of the tenets of the Church.
I agree that dragging others into your beliefs is not the way to do it. Rather the way is to explain and invite, then let the other person make the decision.
It’s also not good to not explain and invite. You say that the answers all seem self-serving to you. I’m surprised that you can’t think of non-self-serving reasons for wanting others to know and love God. I agree that you don’t think they are legit, but they are consistent in the Christian worldview.
(December 4, 2023 at 8:09 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: Me? I’m just here for a good discussion about interesting stuff. Unfortunately, that’s very hard on this forum.
(December 4, 2023 at 8:23 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: The only convert you might get here is the Confused one - thumbs up on that big accomplishment. This is why it’s very hard to have a good discussion. Good discussions require us to actually hear (well, I guess “read”) what the other person is saying. Hmm, maybe you meant “you” in that sentence to be the generic you, as in “only convert one might get.” If that’s true, then my bad. After growing up in The Church and attending Catholic schools for many years, I would love for you to tell me something I haven't heard before.
Go for it. I grew up in an area of the country that was quite Catholic...so much so that my hometown of roughly 3,000 people has a Basilica and when I was young had no other church of any flavor in town.
What you don't get is that most of us have either heard it before or heard some version before. Many here were raised in religion. We aren't ignorant when it comes to the teaching of the church leaders.
You are just one of a long line of theists who have shown up thinking they have the magic words that will convert the heathens to the one way.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 9, 2023 at 12:32 pm
(December 9, 2023 at 10:41 am)arewethereyet Wrote: What you don't get is that most of us have either heard it before or heard some version before. Many here were raised in religion. We aren't ignorant when it comes to the teaching of the church leaders. That may be true. It does not show in the conversations, though. I don’t mean that people agree with those teachings, but few questions or comments show an accurate understanding of what the Church teaches.
I wish I could say that growing up in the Church and attending Catholic schools would give a person that accurate understanding. From what I see here and from what I see in my life, it does not. That is especially true with the weak catechesis and overbearing secular messaging of the last 50 years.
(December 9, 2023 at 10:41 am)arewethereyet Wrote: You are just one of a long line of theists who have shown up thinking they have the magic words that will convert the heathens to the one way. I certainly believe that in your 20 yrs. on this site, you have seen more than your share of theists trying to convert heathens. Do you think that’s why I’m here?
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 9, 2023 at 12:39 pm
(December 8, 2023 at 10:33 am)Ahriman Wrote: (December 8, 2023 at 4:43 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What makes you think that everyone would start having abortions? According to your broken brain, we should also outlaw skydiving because the human race would quickly die out if 'everyone' hit the ground with a resounding thud.
Simply because a thing is legal doesn't mean 'everyone' would avail themselves of it. Fucking moron.
Boru
Uh, maybe I used the wrong word. I'm suggesting a hypothetical scenario in which too many people get abortions (perhaps because it's too accepted) and this jeopardizes human survival.
(December 9, 2023 at 12:32 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: (December 9, 2023 at 10:41 am)arewethereyet Wrote: What you don't get is that most of us have either heard it before or heard some version before. Many here were raised in religion. We aren't ignorant when it comes to the teaching of the church leaders. That may be true. It does not show in the conversations, though. I don’t mean that people agree with those teachings, but few questions or comments show an accurate understanding of what the Church teaches.
I wish I could say that growing up in the Church and attending Catholic schools would give a person that accurate understanding. From what I see here and from what I see in my life, it does not. That is especially true with the weak catechesis and overbearing secular messaging of the last 50 years.
(December 9, 2023 at 10:41 am)arewethereyet Wrote: You are just one of a long line of theists who have shown up thinking they have the magic words that will convert the heathens to the one way. I certainly believe that in your 20 yrs. on this site, you have seen more than your share of theists trying to convert heathens. Do you think that’s why I’m here?
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
December 9, 2023 at 1:10 pm
Hi Boru,
(December 9, 2023 at 12:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (December 9, 2023 at 12:32 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: I certainly believe that in your 20 yrs. on this site, you have seen more than your share of theists trying to convert heathens. Do you think that’s why I’m here?
You don’t count very well. Ah, yes. Subtraction gone wrong. My bad. Thank you for correcting me.
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