The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II

[arewethereyet]

So after being called on his bullshit Bel invents some new bullshit to save face

In true Trump fashion.

He wasn't able to quote a long dead philosopher so had to go off the regular script.

[Sheldon]

Actually I gave you two options.  Either Trump and Musk are paranoid delusionals OR they are knowingly spreading propaganda to mask their own ill-intentioned efforts.

I know this because I have done my homework.  First, I know how ordinary people view their jobs, even government employees who are no different than anyone else.  In the United States, we uphold very high standards of professionalism.  Second, I know that Trump is a malignant narcissist who doesn't uphold such standards.  And anyone who, at close range, still enables such a person has his own agenda.

I thought it was funny when the CIA-funded Islamists were fighting against the Pentagon-funded Islamists in Syria. That was maybe not the most efficient use of tax money, but it was good for a laugh, and it probably only used up a few billion. Anyway, that was while Biden had his steady hand on the tiller, so it must have been OK.

In the old days we used to say "Question Authority" or "Never believe anything until it's been officially denied." 

But now the Blue Team motto seems to be more like "I'm fine with the government security agencies having complete warrantless access to my electronic communications, because they have very high standards of professionalism." Or something like that. 

Anyway, both sides build fascism, but by blaming only one side we can ignore half the cause.

I see a false equivalence fallacy, and at least one straw man, and of course whataboutism, which is a form of the tu quoque fallacy. Are you going to address your earlier claim that Musk was exposing the truth about USAID, when he has lied relentlessly, citations and refutations were offered, but not addressed. 

Or is whataboutism and straw manning to be it?

[Thumpalumpacus]

I thought it was funny when the CIA-funded Islamists were fighting against the Pentagon-funded Islamists in Syria. That was maybe not the most efficient use of tax money, but it was good for a laugh, and it probably only used up a few billion. Anyway, that was while Biden had his steady hand on the tiller, so it must have been OK.

Did you ever stop to think that having them fight each other is better -- and cheaper -- than having them join forces and attacking us and our allies?

You're clearly out of your depth when it comes to realpolitik.

And when will you be acknowledging my point that the talking point you touted about Clinton is false, and that you voicing it rather undercuts not only your claim to be informed, but also your credibility in general? Some time this week? You're being disingenuous here and you will not answer this because you know you got cold-busted shilling bullshit. What a loser.

[Belacqua]

The good thing about Trump is that because he is openly greedy and malicious, he just says it. He doesn't pretend he's not.

So the war in Ukraine has always been about the control of resources. Western corporations are desperate to get their hands on Russian natural resources, so they will do what they can to weaken Russia in the hope of breaking it up and taking over. (Officials from the EU were saying this as recently as last month.)

But Ukraine has lots of natural resources, too, and ex-President Zelensky has obediently turned these over to BlackRock, Vanguard, and other corporations. He changed the law so that prime Ukrainian farmland can be sold to foreigners, and now millions of hectares of arable land will profit Larry Fink's shareholders, and the Ukrainian people will never get the benefit of their own resources ever again.

So it's no surprise that Zelensky is offering up the mineral wealth now. Trump wants it, and he'll be happy to deal with Zelensky to get it. Zelensky is happy to turn it over, even though the war is wrapping up. He'll go down in history as the man who impoverished his country, and greedy businessmen will see Biden/Trump as the winners.

[The Architect Of Fate]

A bunch of bullshit as usual their is no Russian talking point Bel won't repeat

[The Grand Nudger]

The good thing about Trump is that because he is openly greedy and malicious, he just says it. He doesn't pretend he's not.

So the war in Ukraine has always been about the control of resources. Western corporations are desperate to get their hands on Russian natural resources, so they will do what they can to weaken Russia in the hope of breaking it up and taking over. (Officials from the EU were saying this as recently as last month.)

But Ukraine has lots of natural resources, too, and ex-President Zelensky has obediently turned these over to BlackRock, Vanguard, and other corporations. He changed the law so that prime Ukrainian farmland can be sold to foreigners, and now millions of hectares of arable land will profit Larry Fink's shareholders, and the Ukrainian people will never get the benefit of their own resources ever again.

So it's no surprise that Zelensky is offering up the mineral wealth now. Trump wants it, and he'll be happy to deal with Zelensky to get it. Zelensky is happy to turn it over, even though the war is wrapping up. He'll go down in history as the man who impoverished his country, and greedy businessmen will see Biden/Trump as the winners.

You've got a weird definition of good going there.  You're lying about Donald and how he grooms his marks...but that seems secondary.

Tell us more about how zelenskys main sin was losing money.

[Belacqua]

By the way I agree with Rashida Tlaib that Musk should have started his investigations with the Pentagon, rather than USAID. There's a lot more waste going on there, for sure.

Maybe someone can get around to that.

[The Grand Nudger]

"Someone" like inspectors general, you mean?

[Thumpalumpacus]

The good thing about Trump is that because he is openly greedy and malicious, he just says it. He doesn't pretend he's not.

So the war in Ukraine has always been about the control of resources. Western corporations are desperate to get their hands on Russian natural resources, so they will do what they can to weaken Russia in the hope of breaking it up and taking over. (Officials from the EU were saying this as recently as last month.)

But Ukraine has lots of natural resources, too, and ex-President Zelensky has obediently turned these over to BlackRock, Vanguard, and other corporations. He changed the law so that prime Ukrainian farmland can be sold to foreigners, and now millions of hectares of arable land will profit Larry Fink's shareholders, and the Ukrainian people will never get the benefit of their own resources ever again.

So it's no surprise that Zelensky is offering up the mineral wealth now. Trump wants it, and he'll be happy to deal with Zelensky to get it. Zelensky is happy to turn it over, even though the war is wrapping up. He'll go down in history as the man who impoverished his country, and greedy businessmen will see Biden/Trump as the winners.

Public fellatio is illegal in all fifty states. I bet it breaks Japanese law too.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

‘Not a snowball’s chance in Hell.’ - Justin Trudeau on the likelihood of Canada becoming the 51st state.

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