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RE: Damned Catholics
April 24, 2025 at 12:47 pm
(April 24, 2025 at 11:28 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Most cardinals at the Vatican are gay, says Catholic academic
Most of the Roman Catholic cardinals who will choose the new pope are gay, despite the church’s doctrine that homosexuality is sinful, a Belgian expert has said.
Rik Torfs, a professor of canon law at the Catholic University on Leuven, has started debate with his claims, made on a popular Belgian news analysis programme after Pope Francis’s death was announced on Monday.
“A paradoxical situation remains,” Torfs said about Francis’s legacy. “On the one hand, homosexual relations are considered sinful but on the other, a significant percentage — probably the majority — of cardinals are homosexual.”
Asked about the statement, Torfs, a former Christian Democrat senator and a Catholic who is also a critic of conservative clerics in the Holy See, said: “People I know in the Vatican think it’s a large majority.”
Francis last year caused controversy when, during a private meeting, he used extremely derogatory language towards gay men. He criticised what he described as an “atmosphere of faggotry”, using the Italian word frociaggine, at the Vatican. He used the term, not for the first time, when asked during a meeting of clerics about arguments he had made about keeping gay men out of seminaries.
https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/ar...-x2vq2p8zq
Bold italics mine - someone said someone else thinks there's a large majority. There's some real facts for ya. Did Trump write that? Or RFK?
Not that I doubt there are homosexuals in the clergy but that's a pretty wishy-washy statement that really means nothing.
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April 28, 2025 at 11:39 am
Black parents pushed Portland Catholic school to improve racial equity. The principal called police on the parents and expelled the son
The principal at The Madeleine School, a private Catholic school in Northeast Portland, summoned Portland police to the campus in late March when the parents of a Black student demanded to know her plan of action after their fourth grade son reported being called a racist slur on the playground.
Just 72 hours later, the school expelled the boy, effective immediately, saying his parents — Moda Health executive Karis Stoudamire-Phillips and renowned jazz musician Mike Phillips, both prominent Black Portlanders with long histories of volunteering both citywide and in Portland’s tight-knit Catholic school community — had violated the school’s code of conduct for parents.
That one-two punch, coupled with what the family saw as a lack of empathy from the leaders of a community they had poured their hearts into for the last 10 years, prompted them to both hire a lawyer and speak publicly about their story.
“You’re calling the cops on me and kicking out my son because of what he heard?” Mike Phillips asked. “My family is the victim in this. There is no cross you can hide behind.”
Several families do not plan to re-enroll next year or have already pulled their children out, including the family of a child who also reported hearing the slur.
According to that child’s father, who did not want to be named to protect his child’s privacy, Principal Tresa Rast told him and his wife that she suspected that their son had made up the entire incident and recommended that the child see a therapist so he could be “deprogrammed” from the anti-racist training he’d received while previously attending public school in Portland.
Around 50 parents have since signed a letter to the parish priest who oversees the school, The Rev. Bonaventure Rummell, asking him to reinstate the Stoudamire-Phillips’ son and transparently overhaul internal policies and practices governing the school’s response to racist incidents.
Their letter stopped short of calling for Rast to resign. But it said she had committed “an act of violence and overt racism” by calling the police.
The family of one of the only other Black children at the school wrote a separate letter to Rummell, calling for Rast to resign and outlining what they said were other incidents of racism at the school, including “students being made fun of for their skin tone and hair texture and other slurs. Consistently, there was no schoolwide communication and no policies and procedures actioned.”
Rummell responded that the school was unable to discuss any actions administrators took or the reasons behind them, citing privacy concerns.
“You have to understand that a Black man having the cops called on him is a totally different implication,” Phillips said. “It’s a complete abuse of power, a ‘Look what I have over you.’”
By the time the police arrived, Phillips had excused himself to wait for them outside, wanting to clearly show that he was unarmed and calm with nothing to hide, he said. Rast told police that the matter was under control and that the officers were free to leave.
But the damage was done, Phillips said.
In the days that followed, the family said they waited for word that the parents of the students involved had been notified and that plans were underway for restorative conversations and disciplinary consequences.
But by Wednesday, Karis Stoudamire-Phillips got a call from the school during which she was told that all involved students had denied using the slur. The implication, she said, was that perhaps her son and his classmate had misheard them.
She responded with a blistering email to Rast and Rummell, defending her son and writing that Rast had fostered a culture in which “both overt and subtle racism are allowed and even encouraged due to there not being real, impactful and behavior changing consequences for racist action…[Rast] is completely inept…It is simply ludicrous to insinuate that one of the only Black boys in the entire Madeleine school would inflict such trauma on himself and lie [about the racist epithet].”
A day later, on April 3, the family received an email from Rummell with a terse subject line: “Termination of partnership.”
https://www.oregonlive.com/education/202...e-son.html
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April 28, 2025 at 11:53 am
There is only one race that matters, the HUMAN race, I don't understand why some people think brown skin is more significant than brown hair or brown eyes.
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RE: Damned Catholics
April 28, 2025 at 1:51 pm
(April 28, 2025 at 11:53 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: There is only one race that matters, the HUMAN race, I don't understand why some people think brown skin is more significant than brown hair or brown eyes.
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May 2, 2025 at 12:39 pm
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene says Catholic bishops are ‘controlled by Satan’
Greene made the controversial post on X just hours after the Vatican announced the passing of Pope Francis’ passing.
“Today there were major shifts in global leaderships,” it reads. “Evil is being defeated by the hand of God.”
After the post was made, the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights called for Greene’s censure.
The congresswoman then doubled down in a lengthy statement issued Wednesday, demanding an apology over a letter Catholic League President William Donohue sent to the House Ethics Committee.
Greene said she stopped attending mass when she became a mother after realizing “she could not trust the Church leadership to protect my children from pedophiles.”
“It’s the church leadership I was referring to when I invoked the Devil,” she continues. “Just so we’re clear, bishops, when I said ‘controlled by Satan,’ I wasn’t talking about the Catholic Church. I was talking about you.”
Greene did not mention Pope Francis by name in her response. However, the pope is the bishop of Rome.
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/04/30/rep-marj...-by-satan/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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May 2, 2025 at 1:46 pm
Don't believe in satan, but I wouldn't leave a child alone with a priest.
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May 8, 2025 at 12:54 am
The Catholic Church has once again taken the side of child molesters.
Quote:Catholic Church To Excommunicate Priests for Following New US State Law
The Catholic Church has issued a warning to its clergy in Washington state: Any priest who complies with a new law requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities will be excommunicated.
The new law, which will take effect on July 27, eliminates the long-standing confidentiality of the confessional, forcing Catholic leaders and lawmakers into a highly charged standoff over religious liberty and child protection.
However, the Archdiocese of Seattle and several bishops argue that the law not only contravenes church doctrine but crosses constitutional lines, while supporters maintain it is a crucial step to protect minors from abuse.
The issue spotlights the enduring tension between religious freedom and the state's duty to protect children from abuse. By compelling clergy to breach the confessional seal, Washington joins a small group of states stripping traditional confidentiality protections.
https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church...aw-2069039
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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May 23, 2025 at 8:59 am
Supreme Court Deals Blow to Catholic School Funded by Taxpayers
The U.S. Supreme Court put an end to a taxpayer-funded Catholic school in Oklahoma, dividing 4-4 in a closely watched case that could have resulted in the creation of the nation's first religious charter school.
The Catholic Church in Oklahoma wanted taxpayers to fund the online charter school "faithful to the teachings of Jesus Christ."
Opponents warned that allowing it would blur the constitutional separation of church and state, sap money from public schools and possibly upend the rules governing charter schools in almost every state.
The case came to the court amid efforts, mainly in conservative-led states, to insert religion into public schools.
Those include a challenged Louisiana requirement that the Ten Commandments be posted in classrooms and a mandate from Oklahoma's state schools superintendent that the Bible be placed in public school classrooms.
St. Isidore, a K-12 online school, had planned to start classes for its first 200 enrollees last fall, with part of its mission to evangelize its students in the Catholic faith.
https://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-d...rs-2075839
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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June 17, 2025 at 4:26 pm
Dig for remains of 800 infants at former 'mother and baby home' in Ireland begins
The remains of almost 800 babies and children are believed to be buried under a former 'mother and baby home' in Tuam, with many believed to have been dumped into a sewage tank that was dubbed "the pit".
It was her painstaking research that uncovered the deaths of 798 children at the home for unmarried mothers between 1925 and its closure in 1961.
Of those, just two were buried in a nearby cemetery. The remaining 796 are, it's presumed, buried at the site.
Ms Corless's findings in 2014 shocked Ireland and made headlines around the world.
It exposed the dark underbelly of a mid-century Ireland heavily swayed by Catholicism and its cruel attitudes towards illegitimate children and the women who bore them, often sent to mother and baby homes before being separated from their offspring.
The goal is to identify as many of the remains as possible through DNA testing, and to give all a dignified reburial.
It's a glimmer of hope for people like Annette McKay, who now lives in Manchester. Her mother Margaret "Maggie" O'Connor gave birth to a baby girl in the Tuam home in 1942 after being raped at 17.
The girl, named Mary Margaret, died six months later. Annette remembers her late mother recalling how "she was pegging washing out and a nun came up behind her and said 'the child of your sin is dead'."
Annette now hopes her infant sister's remains can be exhumed at Tuam and laid to rest with Maggie. Margaret O'Connor reunited with her child.
For Annette, now 71, Tuam is emblematic of a different time in Ireland.
"We locked up victims of rape, we locked up victims of incest, we locked up victims of violence, we put them in laundries, we took their children, and we just handed them over to the Church to do what they wanted," she said.
"My mother worked heavily pregnant, cleaning floors and a nun passing kicked my mother in the stomach. And when that place is opened, their dirty, ugly secret, it isn't a secret anymore.
An inquiry found an "appalling level of infant mortality" in Ireland's mother and baby homes, concluding that around 9,000 children had died in the 18 institutions investigated.
https://news.sky.com/story/opening-the-p...s-13384111
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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June 18, 2025 at 5:15 am
Church admits failure over sisters' 'sadistic' abuse
The Church of England has apologised to three sisters who say they were "fobbed off" after reporting historical child sex abuse claims.
Jenny, Wendy and Christina Read said they were "frequently" abused as young children by their father, a female church warden and a male curate in night-time "sadistic rituals" at a north-east England church.
An independent review commissioned by the Church found the institution's failure to take action "compounded" the women's trauma, while Cleveland Police "missed opportunities" to investigate for which the force apologised.
Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury when two of the reports were made, said he regretted how he handled the allegations.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2d5w0x6g7zo
Read the full article, the church doing what it always does, ignoring complaints and protecting abusers. Apparently the 'Church is truly sorry' so that makes everything ok.
Calling them disgusting scum would be an insult to scum
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