Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 23, 2025, 7:10 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 23, 2025 at 11:56 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 23, 2025 at 11:45 am)Sheldon Wrote: No, you clearly clipped a tiny part of a question, to remove the context, and evade answering what I'd actually asked. No big deal, I mean I am holding a loaded deck, as you're trying to defend erroneous claims that are at odds with scientific facts, and pretending that science validates them. 

Bottom line, a young earth is as compelling as a flat earth, and for the same reason.

Yes and I'll continue to parse your questions 
Of course, to remove the context and create straw men. I had no expectations of you suddenly displaying any integrity in your apologetics John, relax.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
Notice how you just clipped a portion of my response, and it still remains a coherent phrase? That's because my sentences are all well constructed and each thought builds upon the next.

You, on the other hand, panic because unloading your loaded questions makes them lose their power.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 23, 2025 at 11:56 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 23, 2025 at 11:45 am)Sheldon Wrote: No, you clearly clipped a tiny part of a question...

Yes and I'll continue to parse your questions as long as you keep stacking multiple premises and conditionals inside them.

I gather then that you're unable to consider multivariate points. Context shades meaning. Stripping a statement of its context is a fine way of undermining its meaning. It's obvious that's our aim here.

Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 23, 2025 at 12:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Context shades meaning. Stripping a statement of its context is a fine way of undermining its meaning. It's obvious that's our aim here.

Yeah, that's the problem. The context shades the meaning. So if you load the context with premises I don't agree with, like that it's all magic, then I have to ignore those conditionals if I'm going to answer at all.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
[Image: il_1588xN.5820929538_q7cp.jpg]
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

      Conservative trigger warning.
[Image: s-l640.jpg][Image: shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBjdQ4tzp0y16OBYXxG...s&usqp=CAc]
                                                                                         
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 23, 2025 at 1:23 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 23, 2025 at 12:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Context shades meaning. Stripping a statement of its context is a fine way of undermining its meaning. It's obvious that's our aim here.

Yeah, that's the problem. The context shades the meaning. So if you load the context with premises I don't agree with, like that it's all magic, then I have to ignore those conditionals if I'm going to answer at all.

You dislike the word, but you strongly believe in the content.  It is all magic.  You live in a world full of it.  God-breathed, no less.  Now...there are people in the world who can discuss the magic they believe in without shame or obfuscation.  I absolutely guarantee you that everyone here knows that you mean something like "I don't believe in the wrong/bad magic" without you ever even needing to register the complaint.

Personally, I find open and confident belief refreshing, and even charming...though I obviously don't agree with it's content by any name.   Whatever this has been, is a terrible waste, in context.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 23, 2025 at 12:08 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Notice how you just clipped a portion of my response, 
Yes of course, did you imagine that reciprocity was unintentional?

Tell us again about your degree in psychology...
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 23, 2025 at 12:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(May 23, 2025 at 11:56 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Yes and I'll continue to parse your questions as long as you keep stacking multiple premises and conditionals inside them.

I gather then that you're unable to consider multivariate points. Context shades meaning. Stripping a statement of its context is a fine way of undermining its meaning. It's obvious that's our aim here.
Oh good, I wasn't just imagining that then.  Popcorn
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 23, 2025 at 1:23 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 23, 2025 at 12:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Context shades meaning. Stripping a statement of its context is a fine way of undermining its meaning. It's obvious that's our aim here.

 The context shades the meaning. 
When you dishonestly remove it all, yes, which is rather the point. How long did you think I'd put up with it John, and not reciprocate. 

Sorry, that's rhetorical...

I imagine a good psychologist would have grasped this?
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 23, 2025 at 1:23 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 23, 2025 at 12:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Context shades meaning. Stripping a statement of its context is a fine way of undermining its meaning. It's obvious that's our aim here.

 like that it's all magic, then I have to ignore those conditionals 

Ah, then your claims have some far reaching explanatory powers? Or are you just sulking, because you know you've been indoctrinated into an archaic superstition, and your education is not going to help you deny scientific facts, like the age of the earth, against the Genesis creation myth in the bible?

I did you the courtesy of putting a question mark at the end there. 

Now, what stopped the earth careering through space, without the sun's gravity to hold in orbit? Indeed, how did it form without the simultaneous formation of that sun, and its gravity?

Do take your time, as I am an uneducated dullard, as you know. 

Also how do photons, without our sun, or any star in the entire universe, according to Genesis, heat up and light a planet sufficiently for vegetation to survive, yet fail to do the same for planets (I will spell this out for you, again) that have a massive star emitting a massively larger amount of photons?

Oh and John, if you dishonestly clip a straw man question again, then I will be more than happy to reciprocate. You pays your money, and you takes your choice... Think
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Why is Jesus Circumcised and not the rest of the christians ? Megabullshit 25 9554 May 13, 2025 at 8:23 am
Last Post: arewethereyet
  Jesus wants passionate christians purplepurpose 3 1052 April 1, 2023 at 3:50 am
Last Post: Goosebump
  Search for Causes Lek 202 25949 January 9, 2020 at 2:47 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  In your opinion purplepurpose 20 6818 July 9, 2017 at 7:17 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? Firefighter01 278 73912 January 19, 2017 at 8:19 am
Last Post: Little Rik
  Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? Firefighter01 0 644 August 31, 2016 at 3:19 am
Last Post: Firefighter01
  Evidence and causes for doubt LadyForCamus 43 10609 March 11, 2016 at 3:27 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  AF friends, an opinion on Bible debate, please drfuzzy 25 6653 October 1, 2015 at 10:50 am
Last Post: houseofcantor
  What is your Opinion on Having Required Classes in Logic in Schools? Salacious B. Crumb 43 11564 August 4, 2015 at 12:01 am
Last Post: BitchinHitchins
  Opinion on this Creed Kingpin 80 20540 July 25, 2015 at 5:41 am
Last Post: pocaracas



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)