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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
Oh, and those F-16s?

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https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1991316440356380979

Rather odd that F-16s, the best aircraft in the UAF inventory right now, are being used for ground-attack. The implication is clear, that the SAM/AAA threat is very manageable -- probably because the Russians are having to disperse their limited anti-air assets to defend their refineries and munitions dumps from ... uh ... smoking accidents.

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(Yesterday at 1:58 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(Yesterday at 12:12 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: One of the things that astounds me with this is that the Americans appear to have bred a population too stark stupid to understand that this betrayal will have consequences for them. It's as if they think that unilaterally selling out a European country might not make other nations view them as a pack of inbred hicks with atomic weapons. I suppose it isn't that surprising, given that they've managed to engineer Americans that will violently oppose their own healthcare and education, but it'll still come as a shock to certain Americans when the rest of the world decides not to join them at the rail as they take turns pissing into the wind.

On the bright side, Bel's screed really reads: "Trump's Moscow Handlers Give Him New Marching Orders as European Leaders Point and Laugh."

Take care not to confuse the current Administration's outlook with the American population at large.

While I'm mindful of the distinction between the two, it's difficult to miss the fact that Trump is empowered by a large proportion of that very same population. Hillary Clinton's mistake wasn't calling voters "a basket of deplorables". It was underestimating the size of the basket.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(Yesterday at 4:12 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:
(Yesterday at 1:58 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Take care not to confuse the current Administration's outlook with the American population at large.

While I'm mindful of the distinction between the two, it's difficult to miss the fact that Trump is empowered by a large proportion of that very same population. Hillary Clinton's mistake wasn't calling voters "a basket of deplorables". It was underestimating the size of the basket.

That basket is about 40% of the voting-age population. Generalities about the remaining 60% are not apt, yet that's what you did. Sorry, but that's the fact.

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(Yesterday at 3:52 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Rather odd that F-16s, the best aircraft in the UAF inventory right now, are being used for ground-attack. The implication is clear, that the SAM/AAA threat is very manageable -- probably because the Russians are having to disperse their limited anti-air assets to defend their refineries and munitions dumps from ... uh ... smoking accidents.

1300 aerial targets downed and counting too - most of them missiles and drones..and since it's russia, headed towards the nearest maternity ward.

The priority list for russian air defense appears to be moscow, crimea, fossil fuels, and then finally the front. Sucks to be a russian soldier.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(Yesterday at 9:34 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(Yesterday at 3:52 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Rather odd that F-16s, the best aircraft in the UAF inventory right now, are being used for ground-attack. The implication is clear, that the SAM/AAA threat is very manageable -- probably because the Russians are having to disperse their limited anti-air assets to defend their refineries and munitions dumps from ... uh ... smoking accidents.

1300 aerial targets downed and counting too - most of them missiles and drones..and since it's russia, headed towards the nearest maternity ward.

The priority list for russian air defense appears to be moscow, crimea, fossil fuels, and then finally the front.  Sucks to be a russian soldier.

Not to mention that their AD assets nearer to the front are getting pegged by drones, which they have a hard time tracking. May as well be Wehrmacht in 1944 wondering where the fuck the Luftwaffe is. Fighting without air-cover has been a no-no since, I dunno, forever.

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(Yesterday at 6:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(Yesterday at 4:12 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: While I'm mindful of the distinction between the two, it's difficult to miss the fact that Trump is empowered by a large proportion of that very same population. Hillary Clinton's mistake wasn't calling voters "a basket of deplorables". It was underestimating the size of the basket.

That basket is about 40% of the voting-age population. Generalities about the remaining 60% are not apt, yet that's what you did. Sorry, but that's the fact.

I know, I know. Not all of them are unspeakably stoopid like Bel. I've lived in Maryland. It's like you have two different species down there. You clearly need to start spraying for fascists.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(Yesterday at 11:14 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:
(Yesterday at 6:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: That basket is about 40% of the voting-age population. Generalities about the remaining 60% are not apt, yet that's what you did. Sorry, but that's the fact.

I know, I know. Not all of them are unspeakably stoopid like Bel. I've lived in Maryland. It's like you have two different species down there. You clearly need to start spraying for fascists.

I wish it were only two species, that would make shit so much easier.

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
But all Russia wants is peace.

Quote:Russian spy ship enters UK waters and aims lasers at military pilots, Britain says

The Yantar has entered Britain’s exclusive economic zone, which extends up to 200 nautical miles (about 230 miles) offshore, but the ship has stayed on the edge of the country’s territorial waters, defined as stretching 12 nautical miles (13.8 miles) from the coast, Britain’s PA Media news agency reported.

Healey’s announcement marked the second time this year that Britain has called out the activities of the Yantar. The government says the ship maps the undersea cables used by Britain and its NATO allies for energy and communications and is part of Russia’s secretive deep-sea research unit known as GUGI. But Healey said this is the first time that Russia has directly aimed lasers at British military aircraft.

“We take it extremely seriously,” he said. “I’ve changed the navy’s rules of engagement so that we can follow more closely, monitor more closely, the activities of the Yantar when it’s in our wider waters.” The defense secretary stressed that Britain has “military options ready, should the Yantar change course.”

Britain sees Yantar’s latest incursion into waters of the UK’s economic zone as part of a pattern of increasingly reckless Russian forays into NATO territory.

In recent months, drones have repeatedly crossed from Russia into NATO’s airspace, alongside other acts of sabotage. This week, Polish officials blamed Russia for an explosion on a key rail track from Poland to Ukraine, calling it an “unprecedented act of sabotage.” Overnight into Wednesday, NATO once again scrambled fighter jets over Poland and Romania after Russian airstrikes struck western Ukraine.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/19/uk/ru...itain-intl
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(Today at 12:37 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: But all Russia wants is peace.

Quote:Russian spy ship enters UK waters and aims lasers at military pilots, Britain says

The Yantar has entered Britain’s exclusive economic zone, which extends up to 200 nautical miles (about 230 miles) offshore, but the ship has stayed on the edge of the country’s territorial waters, defined as stretching 12 nautical miles (13.8 miles) from the coast, Britain’s PA Media news agency reported.

Healey’s announcement marked the second time this year that Britain has called out the activities of the Yantar. The government says the ship maps the undersea cables used by Britain and its NATO allies for energy and communications and is part of Russia’s secretive deep-sea research unit known as GUGI. But Healey said this is the first time that Russia has directly aimed lasers at British military aircraft.

“We take it extremely seriously,” he said. “I’ve changed the navy’s rules of engagement so that we can follow more closely, monitor more closely, the activities of the Yantar when it’s in our wider waters.” The defense secretary stressed that Britain has “military options ready, should the Yantar change course.”

Britain sees Yantar’s latest incursion into waters of the UK’s economic zone as part of a pattern of increasingly reckless Russian forays into NATO territory.

In recent months, drones have repeatedly crossed from Russia into NATO’s airspace, alongside other acts of sabotage. This week, Polish officials blamed Russia for an explosion on a key rail track from Poland to Ukraine, calling it an “unprecedented act of sabotage.” Overnight into Wednesday, NATO once again scrambled fighter jets over Poland and Romania after Russian airstrikes struck western Ukraine.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/19/uk/ru...itain-intl

It'd be nice to see Western nations announcing that pointing lasers at our aircraft will be considered as attacks.

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
One of the points in Trump's 28-point capitulation plan is that Russia will have to make a cross-my-heart-and-hope-to-die promise not to pursue aggression against any other European countries.

Problem solved!

Boru
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