Russia and Ukraine

[Belacqua]

@Thumpalumpacus

Yesterday you made it clear that we disagree on this topic.

Let's watch and see how the war goes over the next six months or so and then we'll know which sources' analyses were correct.

[Ivan Denisovich]

Things are really simple here - russia is a rogue state (and one hilariously incompetent considering how long ago war was supposed to end) guilty of starting war (and it's not its first one) and threat to Europe in general and Eastern Europe in particular. Thus money spent to keep it bleeding itself are money well spent. I also would argue that Europe need send more weapons and ammunition as every russian killed is a russian that will not be in any other potential battlefield, nor will he help with rebuilding if it ever comes to that.

This is all in keeping with what I've read elsewhere: that this is largely a proxy war for the purpose of weakening Russia.

No. That is trying to save what can be saved from both unjustified and unjustifiable aggression of wannabe empire in its death throes.

[Deesse23]

"Elsewhere"
Thats of course a much more reliable source than those media controlled by rich and evil people, who make me believe what they want me to believe.

"Elsewhere" is probably the same source that suggested holding an election in a country being invaded and constantly under attack. An election that could not possibly be fair nor free. But what do you know about free or fair elections, being a russian asset?

"Elsewhere" is probably right where you are pulling all your other bs from.

[Thumpalumpacus]

@Thumpalumpacus

Yesterday you made it clear that we disagree on this topic.

Let's watch and see how the war goes over the next six months or so and then we'll know which sources' analyses were correct.

I want to see your "source". You either have one or you don't. An honest interlocutor would present sources upon request.

That is lens through which I view your refusal to link your source. It follows that I consider you dishonest. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise -- if you can.

Makes me wonder if your "source" isn't actually Grok.

[Paleophyte]

This is all in keeping with what I've read elsewhere: that this is largely a proxy war for the purpose of weakening Russia.

Yeah, the West viciously tricked Russia into attacking Ukraine because it desperately needed it to be even more collapsed than it already was. Where is "elsewhere"? So far you've cited a chatterbot that was programmed to suck off Elon Musk as hard as it possibly could and Trump's incompetent security stooge. Are you a tone-deaf imbecile or do you simply play one on TV?