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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
(7 hours ago)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(9 hours ago)Belacqua Wrote: Anybody remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident?



Also Iraqi soldiers threw babies out of incubators in Kuwait and had weapons of mass destruction, Gaddafi gave viagra to his soldiers to commit rapes, Assad used chemical weapons on his own people in Douma.

Any sentence which begins "US intelligence agencies say..." is very likely untrue.

You actually don't need to listen to US intel to see Putin's game plan. Anyone with half-a-brain can see that his end-game is to defeat and conquer Ukraine.  Of course, "anyone with half-a-brain" probably excludes you.

Many of us are skeptical of US gov't motives and propaganda. Hell, I marched against the drum-up to war in late 2002 -- and I'm a Desert Storm vet. Didn't blind me.

Somehow you find FSB dope more credible than your own eyes. Poor little fool, you.

So you agree that we shouldn't believe what US intelligence agencies say. That's good.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(5 hours ago)Belacqua Wrote: we shouldn't believe what US intelligence agencies say. That's good.

Hey, don't pretend like you are against the US intelligence because you distrust it, but rather it's because you are loyal to Putin.

After all, the US intelligence predicted that Russia will invade Ukraine and they were right about that, while you denied it would happen because you couldn't imagine your beloved Vlad would do something like that, although he invaded other countries before.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Oh look, the tools back. That whole inevitable defeat bit from last time didn't age well, did it.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(5 hours ago)Belacqua Wrote:
(7 hours ago)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You actually don't need to listen to US intel to see Putin's game plan. Anyone with half-a-brain can see that his end-game is to defeat and conquer Ukraine.  Of course, "anyone with half-a-brain" probably excludes you.

Many of us are skeptical of US gov't motives and propaganda. Hell, I marched against the drum-up to war in late 2002 -- and I'm a Desert Storm vet. Didn't blind me.

Somehow you find FSB dope more credible than your own eyes. Poor little fool, you.

So you agree that we shouldn't believe what US intelligence agencies say. That's good.

Without corroboration, no.

Meanwhile, somehow you find FSB dope more credible than your own eyes. Poor little fool, you. -- don't think for a moment that your effort to slide past this went unnoticed. Even as you chastise others for believing American intel you lap up FSB drivel like it's mother's milk. Your dishonesty is painfully obvious.

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Distrust of us intelligence is a non starter. The war is out there for anyone and everyone to see, the most well documented war in human history, in real time...to both ukraine and russias great consternation, because everybody has a smartphone in their pocket.
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