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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 2:36 pm
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Now you want to talk about "God"? I am talking about "Reality". I defined it using the dictionary and everything.
Why are you conflating reality w/ God? Unless you understand how I consider the two terms to mean the same thing? Is someone finally getting it?
If reality contains all thought and knowledge is it not omnipotent?
If reality contains all time, all space, all things is it not omnipresent?
If reality is dependent on nothing, and derivative of nothing, and exists solely to itself, is it not infallible?
Is everything bound to reality? Do you, or anything extend beyond it's reach? Can anything?
Can reality be comprehended, if there is nothing outside of itself to do so?
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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Please provide the evidence of the existence of your god to support your claims of "God is reality".
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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Can reality be proven, if there is nothing outside of itself to prove it?
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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 2:53 pm
(January 9, 2012 at 2:41 pm)amkerman Wrote: Can reality be proven, if there is nothing outside of itself to prove it?
You seem to be setting a false argument for god that cant be dismissed without dismissing all of reality.
The argument fails because it is bloody stupid.
You are effectively saying "this coin", (holds up coin so everybody can see it) " is god"
"if you believe in the coin then you believe in god!"
The trouble with this argument is that has nothing to say about belief in god, only about belief in coins. AND COINS ARE NOT GOD.
Do you get what people are not taking you seriously. You think you have a good point but you dont have a point at all.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 2:57 pm
If there is nothing outside of reality to prove it's existence, can things within reality logically believe in it's existence?
Is it possible for something within reality capable of belief to "lack belief" in reality?
If so, is that "lack of belief" logical?
Do you believe in reality?
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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm
(January 9, 2012 at 2:57 pm)amkerman Wrote: If there is nothing outside of reality to prove it's existence, can things within reality logically believe in it's existence?
Is it possible for something within reality capable of belief to "lack belief" in reality?
If so, is that "lack of belief" logical?
Do you believe in reality?
You know the answer to this dont you!
I accept the evidence of my perceptions to be proof of reality.
However reality IS NOT GOD.
You want to say "you believe in reality therefore....TA DA...you believe in god"
But god and reality are different things.
You can say they are the same until you are blue in the face but they arent the same thing at all.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 3:13 pm
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So downbeat, do you believe in an omnipotent omnipresent infallible "thing" which nothing can oppose and in which all things are possible?
And is this "thing" Reality?
And do you agree that Reality can't be proven nor comprehended but can only be believed?
I wholly agree with you downbeat, god and Reality are different things. I believe in Reality. Not god as you define it, unless you define it as Reality.
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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 3:17 pm
(January 9, 2012 at 3:13 pm)amkerman Wrote: So downbeat, do you believe in an omnipotent omnipresent infallible "thing" which nothing can oppose and in which all things are possible?
And is this "thing" Reality?
I can see what you are trying to do here and its quite sad and pathetic.
I have had enough of your childish word games.
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RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Word game? I merely asked questions about reality. I think the answers are pretty obvious.
What I want to know is whether atheists believe in reality as I have defined it using the dictionary.