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Islam true religion?
RE: Islam true religion?
(February 5, 2012 at 12:22 am)Phil Wrote:
(February 5, 2012 at 12:14 am)Zakir_250 Wrote:
(February 5, 2012 at 12:11 am)SleepingDemon Wrote: Why plaigarize wild and unverifiable claims when you can manufacture your own?
That subject is for our Christian friend to answer. Now, what do you have to say to AronRa refutation video?

There you go again dismissing what you can't handle. You really are getting to be a boring Jew hater.
What are you talking about? Quran can't be blamed for plagerism. It's the Bible. I was just assuming he was talking to the Christian.


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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 5, 2012 at 12:24 am)Zakir_250 Wrote: What are you talking about? Quran can't be blamed for plagerism. It's the Bible. I was just assuming he was talking to the Christian.

You really are a fucking arrogant piece of scum you know?
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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 5, 2012 at 12:30 am)Phil Wrote:
(February 5, 2012 at 12:24 am)Zakir_250 Wrote: What are you talking about? Quran can't be blamed for plagerism. It's the Bible. I was just assuming he was talking to the Christian.

You really are a fucking arrogant piece of scum you know?
So the Bible hasn't copied from other religions? or paganism? or greek mythology? and so on. Don't see any arrogance.

Anyway, this may be my final time in this forum because I'm taking a break.

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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 5, 2012 at 12:33 am)Zakir_250 Wrote:
(February 5, 2012 at 12:30 am)Phil Wrote:
(February 5, 2012 at 12:24 am)Zakir_250 Wrote: What are you talking about? Quran can't be blamed for plagerism. It's the Bible. I was just assuming he was talking to the Christian.

You really are a fucking arrogant piece of scum you know?
So the Bible hasn't copied from other religions? or paganism? or greek mythology? and so on. Don't see any arrogance.

Anyway, this may be my final time in this forum because I'm taking a break.

Told you he would pack his shit and leave and farting all of his quran shit all over our forum floor.
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(February 5, 2012 at 12:33 am)Zakir_250 Wrote: Anyway, this may be my final time in this forum because I'm taking a break.

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"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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I just watched a 12 minute video for 30 seconds of brief mention. He did not refute AronRa, he refuted a statement that he made, just one. Furthermore the entirety of the video held nothing useful outside of him besting the dead horse of Noahs flood not being in the quran.
"In our youth, we lacked the maturity, the decency to create gods better than ourselves so that we might have something to aspire to. Instead we are left with a host of deities who were violent, narcissistic, vengeful bullies who reflected our own values. Our gods could have been anything we could imagine, and all we were capable of manifesting were gods who shared the worst of our natures."-Me

"Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation; all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, even if religion vanished; but religious superstition dismounts all these and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men." – Francis Bacon
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Nice try demon...I used to be like that on this forum...now I seldom do it.

not to take the fun or work from you, you did a great job going in between of it all.

It earned you a rate up from me

+1 = "Damn good poster and very dedicated to the forum."
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RE: Islam true religion?
(February 4, 2012 at 11:19 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote:
(February 4, 2012 at 10:52 pm)brotherlylove Wrote:
(February 4, 2012 at 9:46 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Quanity isn't the issue. It's quality. E.g. P52 manuscript has only 4 verses or sometihng and it can't be trusted as reliable. Also there are disputed verses like 1 John 5:7.

Firstly, P52 isnt the earliest..we have the lukan papyrus, the magdelane papyrus, and fragment 7Q5 which are earlier, some in the 1st century. Second, the manuscript evidence for the bible is far superior to the Quran. Most of the manuscripts for the Quran were compiled in the 9th century, and the very oldest ones came 200 years are Muhammeds death in 790 AD. So, if these are your standards you can't trust the Quran either. Yes some do dispute 1 John 5:7 and some don't. If you want to talk about corruption you might want to note that Muhammed plagerized the apocryphal infancy gospels of thomas by including the stories of Jesus making birds out of clay into the Quran among other things. He also plagerized the Talmud and the apocrypha of the life of adam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_and_the_Quran
The missionaries are lying to you. P52 is the earliest. This is from Wikipedia, "Although Rylands \mathfrak{P}52 is generally accepted as the earliest extant record of a canonical New Testament text,[2] the dating of the papyrus is by no means the subject of consensus among critical scholars."

Muhammad didn't plagerize from anything. If he did, then why did he leave out errors from Bible? E.g. the creation story or the Noah's flood being global. Your false Jesus is plagerized from Pagans.

The missionaries are lying to you. P52 is the earliest. This is from Wikipedia, "Although Rylands \mathfrak{P}52 is generally accepted as the earliest extant record of a canonical New Testament text,[2] the dating of the papyrus is by no means the subject of consensus among critical scholars."

There are many scholars that say otherwise, about the dating. I notice you did not comment on the fact that there are no original manuscripts for the Quran, and the earliest ones you have are from 200 years after Muhammed. How can you criticize the bible when it has superior manuscript evidence to the Quran? That's a hypocritical doublestandard, don't you think?

I'll ask you another question. If Muhammed is a prophet, why didn't God speak to him directly like every other prophet? What is the justification that Muhammed is a prophet in the first place? Also, if you didn't know, the Quran says the world was created in six days and it talks about a global flood.
Psalm 19:1-2

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
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Ah, er, specifically what manuscript superiority are you granting your particular fantasy novel, BL? OT or NT?
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