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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 11:31 am
(February 13, 2012 at 11:19 am)leo-rcc Wrote: (February 13, 2012 at 11:11 am)Koklanas Wrote: Believe me his reward will come to you in a very mysterious way.
Cut it out with the preaching, seriously.
Quote:May be ... Out of no where you may grow old until the age of 100 without stroke, or the almighty savse you from a plane crash, or you winning a lottery!...
This happens to both people who do believe in the same almighty as you do, and to people who believe in Shiva, Zarathustra, Buddha, Baal, or no one at all. Random things will happen to random people, it is not evidence of any divine hand at work.
Something happens for a reason. including that big bang theory. nothing happens by chance,
Even the extreme cold weather happening Europe now has a reason. maybe known or unknown to us.
Try doing good to your body by having a well balance diet, the surely you will be healty. It will not happen at random. it must happen to every who does that.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 11:33 am
(February 13, 2012 at 11:31 am)Koklanas Wrote: Something happens for a reason. including that big bang theory. nothing happens by chance,
Really, what causes beta decay O stupid one?
As I said before and I will say again and keep saying till you admit morals are not from your brutal sky warlord Allah, you're an amoral animal if you only do good for reward and avoid doing bad cause you fear punishment.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 11:39 am
Phil, Kok is an amoral animal, and he loves it.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 11:39 am
Quote:Quote:That is the time you need another 'Boss' to bring back to the right moral standard which is ' the higher being'...
Careful here, you are entering the realm of preaching, keep it on topic, don't tell other members what they "need" in their lives. You have yet to make a case that such a thing is needed, let alone exists.
I did not mean to preach anyone (maybe because of my weakness in English language) may be the right word is "one needs another 'Boss' to bring back to the right moral standard which is ' the higher being' "
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 11:40 am
Will you cut it out with the "so sorry, do not speak the language" apologetics? If you can think of a better way to say something, spend some time thinking before you say anything.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 11:43 am
Quote:Really, what causes beta decay O stupid one?
As I said before and I will say again and keep saying till you admit morals are not from your brutal sky warlord Allah, you're an amoral animal if you only do good for reward and avoid doing bad cause you fear punishment.
I will not answer to those who are impolite.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 11:43 am
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You gonna tell us what causes beta decay o great and stupid Kok? You seem to think everything has a cause so what causes beta decay?
As I said before and I will say again and keep saying till you admit morals are not from your brutal sky warlord Allah, you're an amoral animal if you only do good for reward and avoid doing bad cause you fear punishment.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 11:44 am
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2012 at 12:03 pm by Koklanas.)
(February 13, 2012 at 11:40 am)Epimethean Wrote: Will you cut it out with the "so sorry, do not speak the language" apologetics? If you can think of a better way to say something, spend some time thinking before you say anything.
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(February 13, 2012 at 11:43 am)Phil Wrote: You gonna tell us what causes beta decay o great and stupid Kok? You seem to think everything has a cause so what causes beta decay?
As I said before and I will say again and keep saying till you admit morals are not from your brutal sky warlord Allah, you're an amoral animal if you only do good for reward and avoid doing bad cause you fear punishment.
say sorry and ask me again in a polite way, then I will answer you
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If you have been to a place with no law and order and no authority . then you would be able to judge if it is good or bad. Then at that time you start thinking of an entity of higher authority to put things into order.
I'm not buying that for a second, but suppose I do, how does me thinking about an entity of higher authority make this entity a reality?
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm
(February 13, 2012 at 10:06 am)Koklanas Wrote: I am repeating myself because you and your friends' arguments dont make sense. Justice is basic human need just like food and oxygen. If you dont get it in this world then the Supreme being is there to ensure it happens in the next world. I can sleep well at night believing the is such an entity.
If you have been to a place with no law and order and no authority . then you would be able to judge if it is good or bad. Then at that time you start thinking of an entity of higher authority to put things into order.
If those bad people slips justice, then that is the proof of the need for higher being of the most just whoi is all-knowing Maybe you do, but I don't Kok. Maybe this is proof enough for you, but not me. My standards of evidence are higher than your own, if what you need is proof of anything other than what you need.
Quote:You are able to do so (live a good life...) because your parents (your boss) had thought you well when you were brought up,,, he had seta good standard of what is right and wrong until you become a learnt man.
Later in life your good life may go astray when you get into debt for example and you start going against the moral standard your parents thought and create your own standard you think is right, by stealing and what not.
That is the time you need another 'Boss' to bring back to the right moral standard which is ' the higher being'...
The judgment day has not happened yet. I will show it to you when we meet there. When the Supremen being raised us both from death.
I cannot bring the future now since it is in the future.
et's wait until the cosmos become unstable an not in equilibrium and then other planet hits our planet and the world ends.
Multiple "she's", no "he's". I like to pretend to be well educated every once in a while. I'm not in debt (exactly the opposite). I'm not going against any of my family's moral standards either. There aren't any believers in my family Kok, none of us base our motivations on what your god will or wont do to us, good or bad. We had to import one (my wife). Based on nothing but your criteria, seeing as I don't fit any of the descriptions you've mentioned for "going astray", I don't need your god.
You and I are unlikely to meet anywhere, ever, beyond this forum. This will be all I ever know of you, and this is what you'd like to communicate? That there will be a day of judgement? Where you and I get to meet? Why, are you hoping for an "I told you so" moment?
Other planets are going to collide with our planet? The cosmos will lose equilibrium? Your god sounds incompetent.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 12:12 pm
(February 13, 2012 at 11:44 am)Koklanas Wrote: say sorry and ask me again in a polite way, then I will answer you As I thought.
As I said before and I will say again and keep saying till you admit morals are not from your brutal sky warlord Allah, you're an amoral animal if you only do good for reward and avoid doing bad cause you fear punishment.
Apologize to you? Not a chance asshole.
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