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Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 3, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
It is said that God can do whatever he likes. He is after all, God. He created everything and can destroy it at a whim if he chooses to do so. I do not believe this but will grant it as a truth for this O P.
Given that God can kill or cure, and given that we are to emulate, follow and try to be like him; it would seem that we too are to believe that sometimes it is better to kill than cure. I cannot think of any good situation to do this but that is just me. Perhaps you can.
Scriptures show God killing many or having men kill many. Scriptures show God curing on a few occasions but killing seems to be his preferred method.
Life, be it from God or nature, should be venerated. God does not seem to venerate human life even as he claims man to be his most precious and loved creation and even placing us above the angels. This indicates that he should venerate our lives yet it does not seem to.
In our human world, if a doctor who could cure his patient decided to kill him, he would be jailed and considered an evil person. In the believer world, a God who could cure and decides to kill is considered good and praised for his killing. A double standard. I hope that we will all agree that for a human to kill, when a cure option is available, is evil and immoral. If you do not; please do not reply.
Is it moral for God to kill when a cure options is available?
Does your God need to have good morals or does it matter?
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 3, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Quote:It is said that God can do whatever he likes. He is after all, God.
Actually, no one with more than an ounce of brains says that.
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm
It's immoral to kill if a cure exists, as a general rule. Obviously there can be exceptions, but for the sake of this question, yes, God would be an immoral asshole according to the Bible if he existed at all.
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 4, 2012 at 1:08 am
Morality is defined by popular culture. So in truth it all depends on when and where you live. So you tell me. What does your morality tell you to do?
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 4, 2012 at 1:15 am
(April 4, 2012 at 1:08 am)Drich Wrote: . What does your morality tell you to do?
Ignore you.
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 4, 2012 at 1:28 am
(April 4, 2012 at 1:15 am)Minimalist Wrote: (April 4, 2012 at 1:08 am)Drich Wrote: . What does your morality tell you to do?
Ignore you.
Because you didn't does that make you an immoral person? 
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 4, 2012 at 3:15 am
Yes.
Fortunately, I don't give a flying fuck about such things.
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 4, 2012 at 8:58 am
(This post was last modified: April 4, 2012 at 9:03 am by Greatest I am.)
(April 3, 2012 at 7:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:It is said that God can do whatever he likes. He is after all, God.
Actually, no one with more than an ounce of brains says that.
I agree. Many believers are like that.
It should be easy to counter then.
Care to have a go?
KIS though.
They have a short attention span as well.
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(April 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm)R-e-n-n-a-t Wrote: It's immoral to kill if a cure exists, as a general rule. Obviously there can be exceptions, but for the sake of this question, yes, God would be an immoral asshole according to the Bible if he existed at all.
Thanks much.
It is surprising how few will give a clear answer.
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(April 4, 2012 at 1:08 am)Drich Wrote: Morality is defined by popular culture. So in truth it all depends on when and where you live. So you tell me. What does your morality tell you to do?
Reciprocity is fair play.
You answer my question and I will answer yours.
You show your morals and I will show you mine.
Further, you will know that some moral concepts are fairly universal.
http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 4, 2012 at 12:56 pm
(April 4, 2012 at 1:08 am)Drich Wrote: Morality is defined by popular culture. So in truth it all depends on when and where you live. So you tell me. What does your morality tell you to do?
Morality defined by popular culture??? Then why can a single person such as Castro from Cuba rise up and decide morality for popular culture? He decided who will live and that his people couldn't leave the island. Your view of morality is illogical, but I'm sure you already knew that.
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
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RE: Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?
April 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Great topic. I like the way you framed the question. My preliminary response, off the top of my head, is as follows: A cure, such as you propose would require God to force them to change their heart against their will. As a general rule, the biblical God, offers people the opportunity to repent prior to smiting them. The prophets lay out the choice before both individuals and entire peoples. In other words, you must first recognize that you are sick and agree to take your medicine. Not always, In some instances the condition of some, like the men of Sodom, is so wicked that they have already abundantly confirmed their choice. God does indeed venerate life, not just the physical but the spiritual as well, the physical being a precursor to a spiritual afterlife. God smites the wicked who have already become spiritually dead, even though they remain physically. Once people have confirmed that they will not repent no matter what and are spiritually dead, God removes the wicked so that they cannot continue harming anyone else. Because only God knows the spiritual condition of people, only God can judge and smite. (BTW I just like using the word 'smite' because I don't get to use it that often.)
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