Brewing a miracle.

[Ace Otana]

This should also be considered. Our bodies can do some crazy things sometimes, although you should still seek medical help for cancer and things of the like.

Absolutely. Just because we may have the ability to overcome some serious medical problems, never neglect medical treatment. Ever. Not for faith, not for over confidence in the human brain's abilities.

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so thank anything but God?

A god isn't required to explain it.
Besides, this 'god' hasn't been demonstrated to exist. Why assume it had anything to do with it?

[Annik]

Taken from my "post number 1"

I prayed this prayer with the attitude "no matter the cost" and I got what i prayed for. I was diagnosed with over 200 skin lesions due to a viral infection that people with healthy immune systems can easily fight off. This lead the doctors to suspect that i had HIV. They did a test and two weeks later confirmed the initial diagnosis, upon which I was given another test to confirm. I prayed for my life initially then found a great peace. It wasn't until I humbled myself that I did find what I was looking for. Not in a church not in a religious denomination, but in God. the doctor had me return for my second test results and another round of treatment for my lesions. Where upon I was tested negative for HIV. Again another blood sample was taken and a revisit scheduled. When I returned the remaining lesions had healed themselves. I still have over 100 small scars where the lesions were treated to remind me of my answered prayer. (even still this was not enough for me to completely change, but it was enough to break my hard heart, and point me in the right direction.)

If you want to know God then offer all that you have to give. Give Him what is most valuable in your life. Money, job, life whatever you will not put a price on, offer all of it. Know you may not get it back but you will have your "proof" before you die. (you just don't know how soon that will be)

Just want you to know what you are asking for in the "prayer" you offered. Now all you have to do is seek in the bible, in church, and with people like me (willing to study with you) and knock by repeating this process till you get what you want.

Sounds like it was never HIV. There is such a thing as a false positive. And that's hardly evidence of a skydaddy.

so thank anything but God?

Yep. Because it's not your god doing all these things.

Absolutely. Just because we may have the ability to overcome some serious medical problems, never neglect medical treatment. Ever. Not for faith, not for over confidence in the human brain's abilities.

That was mainly a disclaimer kind of thing, haha.

[Drich]

A god isn't required to explain it.

But science can in that "the body does crazy things sometimes."


Yeah, you roll up with full blown HIV and see who you call out to when your insurance runs out.

Besides, this 'god' hasn't been demonstrated to exist.

Not on a universal scale no. That said no one who has followed Luke 11 can say they haven't been given what they asked, sought and knocked for either.

Why assume it had anything to do with it?

Because along with several other instances like this one. It was enough for me to believe.

[Minimalist]

Yeah, you roll up with full blown HIV and see who you call out to when your insurance runs out.

Try to remember that your holy shitheads attribute HIV to god punishing queers.

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

Jerry Falwell

[Drich]

Sounds like it was never HIV. There is such a thing as a false negative. And that's hardly evidence of a skydaddy.

2 Doctors 200+ viral skin lesions plus a Aids test later says it wasn't a false negitive.

Yep. Because it's not your god doing all these things?

do you have the fortitude to find out for yourself?

[libalchris]

Taken from my "post number 1"

I prayed this prayer with the attitude "no matter the cost" and I got what i prayed for. I was diagnosed with over 200 skin lesions due to a viral infection that people with healthy immune systems can easily fight off. This lead the doctors to suspect that i had HIV. They did a test and two weeks later confirmed the initial diagnosis, upon which I was given another test to confirm. I prayed for my life initially then found a great peace. It wasn't until I humbled myself that I did find what I was looking for. Not in a church not in a religious denomination, but in God. the doctor had me return for my second test results and another round of treatment for my lesions. Where upon I was tested negative for HIV. Again another blood sample was taken and a revisit scheduled. When I returned the remaining lesions had healed themselves. I still have over 100 small scars where the lesions were treated to remind me of my answered prayer.

sounds like a false positive to me

[Drich]

Yeah, you roll up with full blown HIV and see who you call out to when your insurance runs out.

Try to remember that your holy shitheads attribute HIV to god punishing queers.

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

Jerry Falwell

I guess it is also a suitable punishment for helping a badly bleeding accident victim as well. Eitherway it's not how you contract it it is how you deal with life after you have it.

[Ace Otana]

Because along with several other instances like this one. It was enough for me to believe.

Remember that bit. It's enough for you to think some gawd did it. No filters in place I see.

But science can in that "the body does crazy things sometimes."

The body and mind can and does do some unusual things. Whether you like it or not. If you're going to run back to religion each time you'll never know anything.

[libalchris]

Sounds like it was never HIV. There is such a thing as a false negative. And that's hardly evidence of a skydaddy.

2 Doctors 200+ viral skin lesions plus a Aids test later says it wasn't a false negitive.

If it was so definitely HIV why bother giving you a second test? To make sure the first one wasn't a false positive.

[Drich]

Remember that bit. It's enough for you to think some gawd did it. No filters in place I see.

WHICH Is Exactly My Point!!! If you can foster the faith of a mustard seed, God will provide for you Exactly the "proof" you need for your own belief. Allowing others to dismiss what was not intended to be "proof" for them.

The body and mind can and does do some unusual things. Whether you like it or not. If you're going to run back to religion each time you'll never know anything.

The doctors treating me seem to have the same reaction. I guess I am in pretty good company.

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2 Doctors 200+ viral skin lesions plus a Aids test later says it wasn't a false negitive.

If it was so definitely HIV why bother giving you a second test? To make sure the first one wasn't a false positive.

I was told they always give a second test, when the first came up positive, but the nature of the lesions and how they progressed was a sure sign of the latter stages of HIV. (I was told Six months to a Year in 1994/95, because my insurance would not cover the treatments or meds I needed.)