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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 3:43 pm
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm by StatCrux.)
(May 13, 2012 at 3:34 pm)Annik Wrote: Obviously, if there are men without penises, the blanket statement "Men have a penis" would be too general.
LOL OK If that's the way reason works over and above blatantly obvious truths I despair! Ever heard the term "exception to the rule"? This is how you can have discussions with people who remain straight faced saying that there is no such thing as male and female! and start bringing up AIS etc, total cloud cuckoo land arguments....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 3:49 pm
I doubt that even a sonic screwdriver can open a Christian mind.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 3:51 pm
It would be different if the statement was worded, "Medically, men should be born with a penis" or something similar. You asked about the validity of your statement, I'm just going off grammar. I also never said that there was no such thing as male or female, I just answered your question.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 3:53 pm
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2012 at 3:54 pm by Gooders1002.)
(May 13, 2012 at 3:43 pm)StatCrux Wrote: (May 13, 2012 at 3:34 pm)Annik Wrote: Obviously, if there are men without penises, the blanket statement "Men have a penis" would be too general.
LOL OK If that's the way reason works over and above blatantly obvious truths I despair! Ever heard the term "exception to the rule"? This is how you can have discussions with people who remain straight faced saying that there is no such thing as male and female! and start bringing up AIS etc, total cloud cuckoo land arguments....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
And whos bright Idea was it to burn witchs? The church! praying on the weak and ignorant.
(May 13, 2012 at 3:49 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: I doubt that even a sonic screwdriver can open a Christian mind.
-not even an atom bomb could-
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 3:55 pm
(May 13, 2012 at 3:51 pm)Annik Wrote: It would be different if the statement was worded, "Medically, men should be born with a penis" or something similar. You asked about the validity of your statement, I'm just going off grammar. I also never said that there was no such thing as male or female, I just answered your question.
OK, I'll ask you a simple question, do men have penises?
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm
(May 13, 2012 at 3:55 pm)StatCrux Wrote: (May 13, 2012 at 3:51 pm)Annik Wrote: It would be different if the statement was worded, "Medically, men should be born with a penis" or something similar. You asked about the validity of your statement, I'm just going off grammar. I also never said that there was no such thing as male or female, I just answered your question.
OK, I'll ask you a simple question, do men have penises?
The majority of men have penises.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2012 at 4:08 pm by StatCrux.)
(May 13, 2012 at 3:35 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Ok guys I think StatCrux has made there point. Know I am boring of you try to change there mind, it is obviously fixed and there no way were going to change there closed mind, or even open it, I wasted enough time on them as it is and frankly boring. lets leave them alone, I know a lost cause when I see one.
Still haven't cracked the there, their and they're thing eh.... 
(May 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm)Annik Wrote: (May 13, 2012 at 3:55 pm)StatCrux Wrote: OK, I'll ask you a simple question, do men have penises?
The majority of men have penises.
So in your opinion we can't have general statements about anything that has possible exceptions to the rule? I would be wrong to say "humans have hands" because some humans don't, right? So is there anything that we can say for certain? Pedantic nonsense...
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 4:11 pm
(May 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm)StatCrux Wrote: (May 13, 2012 at 3:35 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Ok guys I think StatCrux has made there point. Know I am boring of you try to change there mind, it is obviously fixed and there no way were going to change there closed mind, or even open it, I wasted enough time on them as it is and frankly boring. lets leave them alone, I know a lost cause when I see one.
Still haven't cracked the there, their and they're thing eh....
I am dyslexic what do you expect?
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Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 4:19 pm
(May 13, 2012 at 4:11 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: (May 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm)StatCrux Wrote: Still haven't cracked the there, their and they're thing eh....
I am dyslexic what do you expect?
Oh sorry I thought you were just stupid.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm
(May 13, 2012 at 3:31 pm)StatCrux Wrote: So if I make a statement of "men have a penis, women have a vagina" using your logic one man without a penis would invalidate the statement? Is that what you are proposing? I've seen this reasoning before....
Why yes, it would. Which is why we don't define men as "those who have a penis", nor do we define women as "those who have a vagina". Biologically, a male-to-female transsexual who has a vagina and breasts is still a man.
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