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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 9:42 am
(May 14, 2012 at 9:19 am)StatCrux Wrote: No it wasn't! that definition was specifically about definitions of male and female! Anyone can read the text.
that definition came after this point, remember?
"right stay on this topic, no diversions. answer the question, what is the definition of male and female? If male and female exist (which you accepted) give your criteria for determining them. You have consistently failed to provide any definitions. "
If anyone can read the text, then why don't you? Zen has been consistently addressing only your position on same sex marriage, not male-female distinction. The statement I gave is applicable to both, marriage and male/female distinction. Since you have provided your incorrect criteria for only one of them, it is obvious which one was being referred to.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 9:45 am
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2012 at 9:45 am by Zen Badger.)
Pffft, this one is incapable of rational debate.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 9:46 am
(May 14, 2012 at 9:31 am)StatCrux Wrote: I do eject that rule, that has never been my position. I say marriage is defined in part not only as a union open to to procreation of offspring in principal. Any union not open to procreation in principal is therefore not a marriage. Infertile couples (male/female) are still in principal procreative even if not in actuality.
Remember this statement?
Rule: Same sex relationships are not procreative in principal (Ie without recourse to artificial intervention)
As indicated here, by "in principle", you mean without recourse to artificial intervention. Ergo, according to you, infertile couples are not procreative in principle and therefore their union is not a marriage.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 9:46 am
Oh...  I'm sorry, I was not aware that ONLY MALES were to discuss on this thread...night everyone!
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 9:46 am
StatCrux Wrote:Same sex unions are not procreative in principal.
StaCrux Wrote:...keep the male-female unions are procreative in principal despite the fact that exceptions exist
Haven't figured out the difference between principle and principal, have you?
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 9:52 am
(May 14, 2012 at 9:40 am)StatCrux Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOXJI-fZmQ
So now that you have shown where you get your stupid views from, are you giving up on justifying them?
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 9:59 am
(May 14, 2012 at 9:52 am)genkaus Wrote: (May 14, 2012 at 9:40 am)StatCrux Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOXJI-fZmQ
So now that you have shown where you get your stupid views from, are you giving up on justifying them?
Not at all, and it seems that the UK government has conceded that most people are in agreement.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 10:31 am
(May 14, 2012 at 9:59 am)StatCrux Wrote: Not at all, and it seems that the UK government has conceded that most people are in agreement.
If only reality could be determined by simple agreement.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 10:45 am
(May 14, 2012 at 10:31 am)genkaus Wrote: (May 14, 2012 at 9:59 am)StatCrux Wrote: Not at all, and it seems that the UK government has conceded that most people are in agreement.
If only reality could be determined by simple agreement.
Gay couples already have equal rights in law regarding same sex relationships in the UK, why do they feel the need for it to be called marriage? This isn't about equality it's about redefining the current definition of marriage.
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RE: Same sex marriage
May 14, 2012 at 11:03 am
(May 14, 2012 at 10:45 am)StatCrux Wrote: (May 14, 2012 at 10:31 am)genkaus Wrote: If only reality could be determined by simple agreement.
Gay couples already have equal rights in law regarding same sex relationships in the UK, why do they feel the need for it to be called marriage? This isn't about equality it's about redefining the current definition of marriage.
and it is not the first time is has happened.Tthe whole redefining marriage thing.
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