My perspective - truth or delusion?

[The Grand Nudger]

I think it's logical -does not equal- it is logical. If logic is even taking part in this thought process in the first place.

I think it is logical, and so lets proceed as though it is even though I can explain why. Doesn't work. A before B.

[twocompulsive]

Morality is a human concept that originated with evolution when Man had
to abide by certain accepted norms of behaviour : to guarantee the over
all well being of the group or groups : it has nothing to do with deities
though : how ever every thing to do with the immediate survival and
eventual propagation of the species same as all other members of
the animal kingdom : and it would probably have functioned on a
numerical proficient basis : so a majority view prevailed where
any dissent existed : this principle is still evident today in the
way in which we equate mathematical majority with moral
right even though in reality there is however no absolute
law determing this : you have a belief system you still
interpret that according to your individual psychology
which is ultimately what determines one s morality
and not your religion : this is readily explained by
the fact that even those without a belief system
will still have a moral code indiviidual to them

[genkaus]

Here is the problem, this would be the case IF God doesn't exist. I can appreciate you believe that, but if God exists, and he is the eternal basis of morality, and so morality points to eternal basis, etc, why wouldn't it be knowledge?

Wrong formulation. Saying "if morality has an eternal basis, then that basis is god" is different than saying "if god exists, then morality has an eternal basis". Even with god's existence, morality need not have an eternal basis. The first argument is wrong as well, since that eternal basis can still be something other than god. Further, morality most definitely does not have an eternal basis. So your argument fails on all three levels.

To me spiritual knowledge is possible if we have a soul and God exists. So why I should I assume spiritual belief is always a delusion?

To me, it seems the logical thing to do, is to ask myself if it's genuine knowledge as opposed to simply a "hunch". But to be honest, to me I see these things like I see things with my physical eyes.

Logical you say? That's funny, given that the statement is rife with logical fallacies. According to you, spiritual knowledge would be gained if god/soul exists and the knowledge of its existence (spiritual in itself) can be gained by through it - that's circular reasoning. The reason you should presume spiritual belief to be a delusion is because it contradicts the reality around you.