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A person on another forum was mean to me!
#11
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
there's a thread going about this story on one of the RC forums i'm on, and the general consensus is the fucktard rapist got what he deserved. people like that have no place in the world. even in prison where fucked up people can be the norm, they don't even tolerate rapists.
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#12
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
(June 23, 2012 at 8:27 am)Deicide73 Wrote: I applaud the father for removing this vile "person" from existence. I believe that if you rape and torture a child you forfeit your life. I would have done the same.

You can be happy such a person is dead but what gives you the right to commit murder yourself?
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#13
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
it's not murder if the person is physically and psychologically harming an innocent child. that poor little girl is going to have to deal with what happened to her for the rest of her life, and so is her father. it's a losing situation for everyone, but it's certainly not murder.
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#14
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Deadly force is justified to stop a rape or murder. This wasn't a case of vigilante justice. It was a case of a man stopping his daughter's attacker in the act. The guy didn't deserve to die, but that is the gamble you take when you rape someone.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#15
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
Quote:As police struggle to locate the family ranch, the father swears and tells the dispatcher: "Come on! This guy is going to die on me! I don't know what to do!

We can't know what level of force was applied to stop the attack but judging from the 9-1-1 call it does not appear as if killing the guy was the intention.
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#16
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
Brought the above up in another thread.

Padraic, quit placing this guy on a pedestal.

He didn't want to kill the guy, and glorifying his unintentional killing is wrong.

He should be glorified for protecting is daughter, not for dealing death.
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#17
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
(June 23, 2012 at 11:20 am)Faith No More Wrote: Deadly force is justified to stop a rape or murder. This wasn't a case of vigilante justice. It was a case of a man stopping his daughter's attacker in the act. The guy didn't deserve to die, but that is the gamble you take when you rape someone.

I don't think deadly force is justified to stop a rape.

Rape is bad, but it is not anywhere near the equivalent of taking a life. Other crimes car be far worse than rape and still not come anywhere near taking a life. Get over the stupid fucking littlemindedness about rape.
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#18
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
(June 23, 2012 at 4:22 am)Welsh cake Wrote: Murderers deserve no protection from society or any individual.

When you intentionally kill another innocent person, without justifiable cause, defence or provocation, you forfeit all human rights. By taking away another person's right to live, you have surrendered your own right to live.

I love how you wrap up that in a bunch of conditions.

Very very weak, slippery conditions that are subjective and can be moved like goal posts...

Justifiable cause and provocation are within the eyes of the beholder and culture.

Were this during the founding of certain Semitic religions, I suspect the attitudes would be different.


(June 23, 2012 at 4:22 am)Welsh cake Wrote: Every minute, every second, you live while that person you killed has ceased to exist, is an insult to the rest of us. You deserve nothing short of a swift execution.

"Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends."

(June 23, 2012 at 1:57 pm)Chuck Wrote: I don't think deadly force is justified to stop a rape.

Rape is bad, but it is not anywhere near the equivalent of taking a life. Other crimes car be far worse than rape and still not come anywhere near taking a life. Get over the stupid fucking littlemindedness about rape.

You may have no other recourse in stopping one without significant risk to the victim or yourself.
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#19
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
Chuck Wrote:I don't think deadly force is justified to stop a rape.

Rape is bad, but it is not anywhere near the equivalent of taking a life. Other crimes car be far worse than rape and still not come anywhere near taking a life. Get over the stupid fucking littlemindedness about rape.

Whoa, easy there Chuck. Let's not jump any conclusions. I meant legally deadly force is justified. Be careful of throwing around the term 'littlemindness' so callously.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#20
RE: A person on another forum was mean to me!
I'm not so sure that rape is "less" than taking a life. The scars it leaves can make the victim stop living in many ways, sometimes literally.
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