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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 4:10 am
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(July 11, 2012 at 3:52 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: (July 11, 2012 at 3:05 am)BrotherMagnet Wrote: Like someone already said. Cheer up I'm not sure how taking God out of the equation makes life any less amazing. With or without a god existence is just as impossible and infinite as it always has been. I myself am glad to be a part of that impossibility.
If there is no God, Hitler got away with it.
Hitler died a coward's death in a bunker with the enemy closing in, an undignified and broken man. He is and will be remembered for all time as a disgusting excuse for a human being. I hardly think he "got away with it."
You really believe in a man who has helped to save the world twice, with the power to change his physical appearance? An alien who travels though time and space-- in a police box?!?
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 9:07 am
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(July 11, 2012 at 4:10 am)KnockEmOuttt Wrote: (July 11, 2012 at 3:52 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: If there is no God, Hitler got away with it.
Hitler died a coward's death in a bunker with the enemy closing in, an undignified and broken man. He is and will be remembered for all time as a disgusting excuse for a human being. I hardly think he "got away with it."
As I pointed out, he lived a quite entertaining and extraordinary life. He was essentially King of country and could have whatever he pleased. We all die eventually, and he lived a reasonably long life and didn't get 10000000000th of what he deserved. And certainly if you won't accept this example there are others.
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 9:24 am
(July 11, 2012 at 9:07 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: As I pointed out, he lived a quite entertaining and extraordinary life. He was essentially King of country and could have whatever he pleased. We all die eventually, and he lived a reasonably long life and didn't get 10000000000th of what he deserved. And certainly if you won't accept this example there are others.
Didn't you just posted that? What does it take, as revenge, that would satiate your bloodlust? Perhaps he dies with no regret, so what?, Should we believe in a god just because he punishes people that harm us? Most probably there are murderers, rapists, pedos that die without justice (we try to catch them as we can, but hypotetically), You think you are making a case, nut its just a security blanket you are hugging, but also you are showing the terror cult that is fundy christianity.
Another thing, I don't go doing harm because I would make unnecessary suffering to another human being, and I reckon by emphaty that those actions carry pain and suffering I wouldn't wish upon myself.
You on the other hand need a puppet god to tell you what's moral and what isn't, something that is sad, really.
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 10:04 am
(July 11, 2012 at 9:07 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: As I pointed out, he lived a quite entertaining and extraordinary life. He was essentially King of country and could have whatever he pleased. We all die eventually, and he lived a reasonably long life and didn't get 10000000000th of what he deserved.
But what if Hitler sincerely repented and accepted Jesus before he died? Wouldn't that mean he is now enjoying eternal life in paradise right alongside all those people he murdered?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 10:11 am
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Yeah, what if he truly and honestly repented? He did not needed to accept jesus, as he was already christian?
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 10:30 am
(July 11, 2012 at 9:07 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: (July 11, 2012 at 4:10 am)KnockEmOuttt Wrote: Hitler died a coward's death in a bunker with the enemy closing in, an undignified and broken man. He is and will be remembered for all time as a disgusting excuse for a human being. I hardly think he "got away with it."
As I pointed out, he lived a quite entertaining and extraordinary life. He was essentially King of country and could have whatever he pleased. We all die eventually, and he lived a reasonably long life and didn't get 10000000000th of what he deserved. And certainly if you won't accept this example there are others.
Troll's right about one thing- Hitler didn't get a 10000000000th of what he deserved. If he had, he would've been trapped in a concrete room and gassed out existence, screaming and breaking fingers trying to claw his way out. I could think of some other ways too, but really, none of them would be even close to what he actually deserved.
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 10:38 am
(July 11, 2012 at 10:04 am)Thor Wrote: But what if Hitler sincerely repented and accepted Jesus before he died? Wouldn't that mean he is now enjoying eternal life in paradise right alongside all those people he murdered?
I believe Hitler was Catholic, so he'd be condemned for killing himself.
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 10:41 am
Wait since when did existence garuntee any justice anyway?
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 10:43 am
Christians love that because they feel it justifies their morality, or :"Do as god says your you'll go to hell". Its the old fear rethoric.
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RE: feeling depressed after becoming atheist
July 11, 2012 at 11:13 am
(July 11, 2012 at 4:08 am)Jeffonthenet Wrote: (July 11, 2012 at 3:57 am)LastPoet Wrote:
He lived a quite entertaining and extraordinary life. He was essentially King of country and could have whatever he pleased. We all die eventually, and he lived a reasonably long life and didn't get 10000000000th of what he deserved.
I don't dispute this. Lots of people get away with doing bad things. Wanting that not to be so is a reason to want to believe in an afterlife where justice is finally served. However, it is not a reason to believe that is actually the case. Wanting something to be so does not make it so. I am particularly suspicious of believing things that I want to be true.
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