Where's the Justice?

[Reforged]

You sir are an insult to the human race, bragging on what you do for others. You sir have no idea of my work with others, it's none of your business and never will be, I am taught by Christ not to brag on the work I do for others, to brag makes one look like a idiot, you idiot. You could not care less for those children in Africa, thank God He does, and He will receive them unto Himself in heaven, each one will be welcomed with great cheering and celebration by the heavenly host, they each will receive a mansion to live in. For you, sense you mentioned it will receive nothing but the punishment of hell for your hatred and bragging about yourself, you care more for what you do than for the ones who need the help, it's all about you, a selfish, self centered little jerk.

How *dare* you. How dare you call anyone an insult to the human race after the disgraceful things you have said on this very forum. How dare you speak with anything other than shame for the contempt you display for your fellow man. Your "work" consists entirely of defending your pitiful work of fiction that stands as nothing more than a testament to the heights of barbarism and the delusion humanity has experienced over millennia. You are a disease, a parasite, a zombie feeding on scraps of misinformation and ignorance wherever you can find them.
I have seen more moral courage from things I've trodden in than I have ever seen from you. The kids suffered and died for no reason, no reason at all and your only retort is that its in Gods plan. Well its not good enough, you're not good enough, the ridiculously inadequate scripture which many here, including myself, have read whole is not good enough. The people deserve a better explanation than anything you could ever provide you useless, a-moral sack of shit. Your idiocy may be enough for the uneducated not capable of defending themselves but we are not the uneducated and we will not tolerate your intellectual cowardice in silence.
In short; give us proof or shut the fuck up before we make you look very, very small you inconceivably stupid little man.

[Drich]

Like I said, it's fun to make believers defend the most absurd aspects of their religion.

there is no make here brother. I am most happy to give a full account of what i believe.

So drowning babies is "good" as long as your deity wills it?

Drowning, smashing them against stones, putting them to the sword.

WOW! Makes me think of something I read somewhere:

Morality is doing what is right no matter what you are told.
Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right.

Unfortunaltly morality is not really the absolute standard you have made it out to be. It's whatever you or your community decides it to be. So allow me to rephrase your saying so it reads accuratly.

Morality is doing whatever you/your peers think is right no matter what you are told (IE; The 'final solution' to the Jewish problem, was billed as a 'Moral Obligation' to the defenders of Hitler's Germany)

Righteousness is is found independantly of the deeds or actions one takes, and is acredited to why one does what He does , and does not assign value to the action itself.

If your deity drowns babies and kills innocent people, it is not worthy of worship.

My 'deity' knows no one is 'innocent' and knew who those babies would grow up to be. Doesn't God being 'All knowing' have the responsiablity to eliminate any one person or group of people who would destroy this world/His plans for this world?

This is scary because there have been people who have killed (or attempted to kill) their children and they claimed they were instructed to do so by God.

Million if not billions more kids where cherrished love and looked after because Christian parents 'claimed God told them to watch after their children.' And unlike your 'claim' Their's is backed by actual scripture.

Glad I'm not your kid. If you had some sort of hallucination you would obviously be ready to pick up a knife and plunge it in my chest.

Actually no. All 'visions' must first be filtered through the expressed will of God.

We don't get stem cells by killing children.

Calling unborn children by another name does not change their genius or Species. Oh, the Irony/Hyprocrisy here. You rant about the philosiphical implications of completely yeilding to God and even go so far as parade out a limric to support you idea of what is 'right' (Morality) To perserve the rights of babies, and yet all you or your morality need to do is change what a baby is called, and then you can justify anything you wish to do to them. If God commanded 10,000 no 100,000 babies to be smashed against stones, drown, or put to the sword, and He is called wicked. How much more wicked is the generation who put millions of babies to death under the banner of "planned parenthood?" And all they had to do to square this slaughter is renamed an unborn baby a fetus (Which is latin for unborn baby.) Yet God is the one being called evil, for bring these children home. Judge not lest you be judged in the same way you've seen fit to judge others.. If you are a supporter of harvesting stem cells from murdered babies or if you support the right to eliminate an unwanted baby, then perhaps YOU might want to take it easy on judgeing God for the act of killing babies in the name of an act that you think is intrinsically wrong.

The Cathoholic Church does not agree with you.

The Catholic Chruch has no qualms of admitting that thier doctrine is not based on biblical principles. They base the whole religious effort on the teaching of a supposed living apstole, that some how he is endowed with the same power and authority Christ Gave Peter. As such this man can change the bible as he sees fit.. Or rather" how God tells him to."

I had to edit your following questions to read correctly. The corrections are in purple.

Sex outside of the bounds of a santified marriage is always a sin.

Where does the Bible say this?

In these passages we find sexual immorality to be a sinActs 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete sexual abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves Hebrews 13:4, 1 Corinthians 7:2

Gambling?

The act itself is not a sin, but the love of money is.

Where does the Bible say this?

1 Timothy 6:10

If some say yes and some say no, and both are right,

This does not square with what you said here:

Because the Expressed will of God is very clear.

If the expressed will of this deity is "very clear", how can people have two different interpretations of it?

Because even if the bible is very clear and say "x" is a sin and "Y" is not some people still may have doubts about "Y" therfore for them it is a sin to do "Y."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=ERV

Read the whole chapter

[Gambit]

Drich, you fail to adequately defend me. I am God, in the guise of a human. I never said any of that shit, stop being such a sheep and learn to be a good person on your own. That is the message I wanted to convey... I guess that whole free will thing kinda back-fired on me...

[Godscreated]

You sir are an insult to the human race, bragging on what you do for others. You sir have no idea of my work with others, it's none of your business and never will be, I am taught by Christ not to brag on the work I do for others, to brag makes one look like a idiot, you idiot. You could not care less for those children in Africa, thank God He does, and He will receive them unto Himself in heaven, each one will be welcomed with great cheering and celebration by the heavenly host, they each will receive a mansion to live in. For you, sense you mentioned it will receive nothing but the punishment of hell for your hatred and bragging about yourself, you care more for what you do than for the ones who need the help, it's all about you, a selfish, self centered little jerk.

How *dare* you. How dare you call anyone an insult to the human race after the disgraceful things you have said on this very forum. How dare you speak with anything other than shame for the contempt you display for your fellow man. Your "work" consists entirely of defending your pitiful work of fiction that stands as nothing more than a testament to the heights of barbarism and the delusion humanity has experienced over millennia. You are a disease, a parasite, a zombie feeding on scraps of misinformation and ignorance wherever you can find them.
I have seen more moral courage from things I've trodden in than I have ever seen from you. The kids suffered and died for no reason, no reason at all and your only retort is that its in Gods plan. Well its not good enough, you're not good enough, the ridiculously inadequate scripture which many here, including myself, have read whole is not good enough. The people deserve a better explanation than anything you could ever provide you useless, a-moral sack of shit. Your idiocy may be enough for the uneducated not capable of defending themselves but we are not the uneducated and we will not tolerate your intellectual cowardice in silence.
In short; give us proof or shut the fuck up before we make you look very, very small you inconceivably stupid little man.

I'm more than ready for a little twit like you.

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You sir are an insult to the human race, bragging on what you do for others. You sir have no idea of my work with others, it's none of your business and never will be, I am taught by Christ not to brag on the work I do for others, to brag makes one look like a idiot, you idiot. You could not care less for those children in Africa, thank God He does, and He will receive them unto Himself in heaven, each one will be welcomed with great cheering and celebration by the heavenly host, they each will receive a mansion to live in. For you, sense you mentioned it will receive nothing but the punishment of hell for your hatred and bragging about yourself, you care more for what you do than for the ones who need the help, it's all about you, a selfish, self centered little jerk.

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I've taken about as much as I can take of this crap. Stop making excuses for your stupid God. You people have an excuse for everything, and as John said, it is disgusting. I won't talk about the good that I do, but anything I do is of my own volition. You need somebody to tell you what is right and wrong, and, if they were to tell you that murder is right you would have your shotgun loaded before the sentence was even finished. You wonder why atheists are rising up against religion, well, you and your ilk are the reason why. You accuse us of having no morals or ethics, then defend the acts of an evil bastard. Then when you are challenged about it you come up with some shit about us not knowing what right and wrong is. I guess we need to take another bite of that apple.

Just who are you to attack what I say about someone else, you all spout that Christians judge others and here you are doing the same thing you complain about. I think you need to grow up and act like a responsible person instead of a little twit. Go ahead and attack Christians all you desire, till it makes you giddy, when the day comes though please don't cry, kick and scream like a little girl, that is just embarrassing.

[Gambit]

How *dare* you. How dare you call anyone an insult to the human race after the disgraceful things you have said on this very forum. How dare you speak with anything other than shame for the contempt you display for your fellow man. Your "work" consists entirely of defending your pitiful work of fiction that stands as nothing more than a testament to the heights of barbarism and the delusion humanity has experienced over millennia. You are a disease, a parasite, a zombie feeding on scraps of misinformation and ignorance wherever you can find them.
I have seen more moral courage from things I've trodden in than I have ever seen from you. The kids suffered and died for no reason, no reason at all and your only retort is that its in Gods plan. Well its not good enough, you're not good enough, the ridiculously inadequate scripture which many here, including myself, have read whole is not good enough. The people deserve a better explanation than anything you could ever provide you useless, a-moral sack of shit. Your idiocy may be enough for the uneducated not capable of defending themselves but we are not the uneducated and we will not tolerate your intellectual cowardice in silence.
In short; give us proof or shut the fuck up before we make you look very, very small you inconceivably stupid little man.

I'm more than ready for a little twit like you.

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I've taken about as much as I can take of this crap. Stop making excuses for your stupid God. You people have an excuse for everything, and as John said, it is disgusting. I won't talk about the good that I do, but anything I do is of my own volition. You need somebody to tell you what is right and wrong, and, if they were to tell you that murder is right you would have your shotgun loaded before the sentence was even finished. You wonder why atheists are rising up against religion, well, you and your ilk are the reason why. You accuse us of having no morals or ethics, then defend the acts of an evil bastard. Then when you are challenged about it you come up with some shit about us not knowing what right and wrong is. I guess we need to take another bite of that apple.

Just who are you to attack what I say about someone else, you all spout that Christians judge others and here you are doing the same thing you complain about. I think you need to grow up and act like a responsible person instead of a little twit. Go ahead and attack Christians all you desire, till it makes you giddy, when the day comes though please don't cry, kick and scream like a little girl, that is just embarrassing.

I am God, now how about you shut the fuck up?

[Mystic]

Because in truth, all you are is talk, you talk about the love your lord has but never shows.

I think this applies to me, I haven't done much for the poor, nor done much for justice. I talk about the world designed to bring about a heroes heart, but haven't done anything worth while yet.

I for one am helping homeless people and families I pay for their food with my $$. I am petitioning to make throwing good food away illegal for grocery stores and restraunts. I see my actions, I never see christians.

A lot of Christians do a lot for humanity as well. You are of few gems in humanity that do well for others and care for others outside their family.

I understand your fustration. But to see gems like you, caring for others and doing stuff for others, I think it makes the world of chaos and sufferring worthwhile specially if in the long term, everyone will be at peace and bliss. After a trillion years of bliss...the world or worlds of sufferring and struggle, would be looked back to as a great favor, a great lesson, a great opportunity, but for many of us, a missed one.

And if there is no god and after life, it doesn't matter, because an honorable life of helping others and caring for others, is more worthy of living, then a eternal life of carnal bliss where no virtue was aquired. A life where people strongly patiently persevere in face of sufferring, is more greater then eternal life of carnal bliss.

This our time. God or no God, this how to live.

[Reforged]

How *dare* you. How dare you call anyone an insult to the human race after the disgraceful things you have said on this very forum. How dare you speak with anything other than shame for the contempt you display for your fellow man. Your "work" consists entirely of defending your pitiful work of fiction that stands as nothing more than a testament to the heights of barbarism and the delusion humanity has experienced over millennia. You are a disease, a parasite, a zombie feeding on scraps of misinformation and ignorance wherever you can find them.
I have seen more moral courage from things I've trodden in than I have ever seen from you. The kids suffered and died for no reason, no reason at all and your only retort is that its in Gods plan. Well its not good enough, you're not good enough, the ridiculously inadequate scripture which many here, including myself, have read whole is not good enough. The people deserve a better explanation than anything you could ever provide you useless, a-moral sack of shit. Your idiocy may be enough for the uneducated not capable of defending themselves but we are not the uneducated and we will not tolerate your intellectual cowardice in silence.
In short; give us proof or shut the fuck up before we make you look very, very small you inconceivably stupid little man.

I'm more than ready for a little twit like you.

Then present your proof.

[Cato]

In these passages we find sexual immorality to be a sinActs 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete sexual abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves Hebrews 13:4, 1 Corinthians 7:2

Sexual immorality? Nothing says 'your the man of my dreams' more than a splash of Old Spice and running through a Biblical checklist to ensure the activity is 'appropriate'.

Let me be clear on this. We are purported to be made in God's image; however, he had the temerity to imbue us with hypersensitivity in the nether regions while also placing limitations on the use? This is hardly intelligent design. Evolution is much less sinsiter in this regard.

[Gambit]

I am God!!! Why doesn't anyone believe in me? Myself, oh myself, what have I done?

[Reforged]

I am God!!! Why doesn't anyone believe in me? Myself, oh myself, what have I done?

Because its so obvious that title belongs to me.