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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 12:40 am
(September 13, 2012 at 11:31 pm)Godschild Wrote: This control stuff comes up all the time, I think it's time someone explained what is meant by it, or if you all are just repeating something you've heard. I've been a part of the Church for a long time and I do not know of any control going on.
Inquisition anyone? Who was "in control" then?
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 12:44 am
(October 11, 2012 at 12:16 am)Darkstar Wrote: (October 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm)catfish Wrote: My "god" is hiding just as much as your answer to the cause of the big bang and life itself...
So let me get this straight, because we don't yet know how the big bang was set off and haven't proven abiogenesis, you don't need to provide evidence for god and we should just take your word for it? Those theories are only missing a few pieces; yours doesn't even have a few pieces.
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 12:52 am
(October 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm)catfish Wrote: My "god" is hiding just as much as your answer to the cause of the big bang and life itself...
Penzias and Wilson, 48 years ago, at least put bounds on your stupid fucking god (first evidence of the cosmic microwave background radiation). Your god doesn't exist, but if he did, Penzias and Wilson caged him.
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 12:56 am
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(October 11, 2012 at 12:52 am)cato123 Wrote: (October 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm)catfish Wrote: My "god" is hiding just as much as your answer to the cause of the big bang and life itself...
Penzias and Wilson, 48 years ago, at least put bounds on your stupid fucking god (first evidence of the cosmic microwave background radiation). Your god doesn't exist, but if he did, Penzias and Wilson caged him.
What the hell does that have to do with my "god"???
Are you defining god for me now? What does he look like?
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 1:19 am
(October 11, 2012 at 12:56 am)catfish Wrote: What the hell does that have to do with my "god"???
Are you defining god for me now? What does he look like?
After all your 'biblical correct' posts I was assuming you were talking about the split peronalities belonging to the god in the bible. If you have another defintion, spit it out rather than trying to ridicule me for guessing.
You know damn well I pegged your stupid bible god for what he fictionally is. Your false attempt at disdain and surprise says more about you. Aren't you the ultra-biblically correct sod?
Grow a dick and define your deity. Quit making me assume its created attributes.
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 1:24 am
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 2:34 am
(October 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm)catfish Wrote: It's easy to establish the "legitimate word" if you have the tools to do so. Read the Bible, it even tells you what those "tools" are...
The text is not all there is... Maybe in your opinion that's all there is.
Produce the "legitimate word". While you're at it, produce anything beyond the text.
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm
(October 11, 2012 at 12:56 am)catfish Wrote: Are you defining god for me now? What does he look like?
What does he look like!?! Are you not defining god for us now? How can we hope to debate abput god if you won't/can't even define him yourself? We can draw reasonable conclusions about him from the bible, so he is not completely unknowable. For exapmle; a man picks up sticks on a Sunday and god orders his execution. Now what conclusion about god's morality can we draw from that?
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 5:40 pm
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(October 11, 2012 at 1:19 am)cato123 Wrote: (October 11, 2012 at 12:56 am)catfish Wrote: What the hell does that have to do with my "god"???
Are you defining god for me now? What does he look like?
After all your 'biblical correct' posts I was assuming you were talking about the split peronalities belonging to the god in the bible. If you have another defintion, spit it out rather than trying to ridicule me for guessing.
You know damn well I pegged your stupid bible god for what he fictionally is. Your false attempt at disdain and surprise says more about you. Aren't you the ultra-biblically correct sod?
Grow a dick and define your deity. Quit making me assume its created attributes.
Suck mine and tell me what your irrelevant post has to do with my "god" first...
(October 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm)Darkstar Wrote: (October 11, 2012 at 12:56 am)catfish Wrote: Are you defining god for me now? What does he look like?
What does he look like!?! Are you not defining god for us now? How can we hope to debate abput god if you won't/can't even define him yourself? We can draw reasonable conclusions about him from the bible, so he is not completely unknowable. For exapmle; a man picks up sticks on a Sunday and god orders his execution. Now what conclusion about god's morality can we draw from that?
You think you can draw "reasonable" conclusions and you don't even know what day the Sabath is???
(October 11, 2012 at 2:34 am)Rhythm Wrote: (October 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm)catfish Wrote: It's easy to establish the "legitimate word" if you have the tools to do so. Read the Bible, it even tells you what those "tools" are...
The text is not all there is... Maybe in your opinion that's all there is.
Produce the "legitimate word". While you're at it, produce anything beyond the text.
That's not my job, it's yours...
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RE: Gullibility - a key to heaven?
October 11, 2012 at 7:29 pm
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(October 11, 2012 at 5:40 pm)catfish Wrote: (October 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm)Darkstar Wrote: What does he look like!?! Are you not defining god for us now? How can we hope to debate abput god if you won't/can't even define him yourself? We can draw reasonable conclusions about him from the bible, so he is not completely unknowable. For exapmle; a man picks up sticks on a Sunday and god orders his execution. Now what conclusion about god's morality can we draw from that?
You think you can draw "reasonable" conclusions and you don't even know what day the Sabath is???
Sabbath
wikipedia Wrote:Observance in Hebrew Scriptures was universally from sixth-day evening to seventh-day evening (Nehemiah 13:19, cf. Leviticus 23:32) on a seven-day week.
Sounds like Sunday more than anything else, though it technically wouldn't be a day at all if it weren't Sunday.
catfish Wrote:That's not my job, it's yours... It's our job to provide evidence for god? If you won't/can't then it's case closed. (Unless you know someone who can)
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